Reply To Defence - E S Parking Enforcement - Manchester

Cryptjitsuu

Hello,

I am new to this forum but will do my best to follow the guidance in Sticky's and am quite far along the process so have tried to check what I've done so far against the FAQ's.

I'm also not allowed to post links so apologies. 

Pictures of supposed offence + parking sign -

https: //ibb.co/smw5CZ1
https://ibb.co/6svc7J
https://ibb.co/f2vH5Pr
https://ibb.co/mDJw3kh

Defence - https://pastebin.com/gVXVvkcr

Reply to Defence - https://pastebin.com/vp6d8n0h

Please note the defence was given to me by a friend who told me to change certain parts to fit my case as had dealt with a similar situation before but the parking company backed down (from looking at the forum others have also been directed to use this defence but correct me if I am wrong)

1. What happens next? The case has been allocated to Manchester already which is my local.
2. Do I stand a chance? The response I gave was obviously generic and I clearly won't be able to delve into the specifics of it if questioned in court.

Ultimately you can clearly see from the photos that it would be easy to miss that sign and it is the only sign for that specific area of land.

Any help would be appreciated.

D_P_Dance

Please consider complaining to your MP.

Fruitcake

Have a look at the guide to court written by bargepole you will find in the second post of the NEWBIES sticky thread. This is a step by step guide, so you should be able to work out where you are in the process and therefore what you need to do next.

Meanwhile, I'll have a go at making your images live. I hope you have redacted all your personal details.

Fruitcake

https://ibb.co/smw5CZ1

https: //ibb.co/6svc7J

https://ibb.co/f2vH5Pr
https://ibb.co/mDJw3kh

Defence - https://pastebin.com/gVXVvkcr

Reply to Defence - https://pastebin.com/vp6d8n0h




Sorry, I can't see what you have done to make dead links. Normally we ask people to upload the images to a web hosting site then paste the URL here, but just change https to hxxps.

Cryptjitsuu

Apologies @Fruitcake

hxxps://ibb.co/smw5CZ1
hxxps://ibb.co/6svc7Jt
hxxps://ibb.co/f2vH5Pr
hxxps://ibb.co/mDJw3kh

Defence - hxxps://pastebin.com/gVXVvkcr


Reply to Defence - hxxps://pastebin.com/vp6d8n0h

Le_Kirk

https://ibb.co/smw5CZ1
https://ibb.co/6svc7Jt
https://ibb.co/f2vH5Pr
https://ibb.co/mDJw3kh
Defence - https://pastebin.com/gVXVvkcr
Reply to Defence - https://pastebin.com/vp6d8n0h

Your links made live (after checking).

Umkomaas

Cryptjitsuu said:

Apologies @Fruitcake

https://ibb.co/smw5CZ1
https://ibb.co/6svc7Jt
https://ibb.co/f2vH5Pr
https://ibb.co/mDJw3kh

Defence - https://pastebin.com/gVXVvkcr


Reply to Defence - https://pastebin.com/vp6d8n0h

There you go!

Cryptjitsuu

Fruitcake said:

Have a look at the guide to court written by bargepole you will find in the second post of the NEWBIES sticky thread. This is a step by step guide, so you should be able to work out where you are in the process and therefore what you need to do next.

Meanwhile, I'll have a go at making your images live. I hope you have redacted all your personal details.

Currently at step 5 and waiting for allocation.

Fruitcake

The sign looks forbidding to me.

The scammers said they deny that you didn't see the sign. The only way they could possible know that is if they were there at the time and saw what the driver did and did not do. There is only one witness, and that is the driver. If the scammers were not there at the time of the alleged incident then they cannot say what the driver did or did not see because that would be a lie

Is the site part of the residential complex where the defendant lived or is it part of a different site? If the former, what does/did your lease/AST say about parking, permits, PCNs, paying a scammer, and court? 

Cryptjitsuu

There is actually more than one witness in this case as the car you can see in the images behind me is a work colleague who would have also got a ticket (work car so would have just been paid without dispute), unsure if that makes a difference. 

It is not technically part of the residential complex despite it being what looks like loading/parking for the complex, as far as I can tell it is just an unused piece of land with no markings to indicate what it is other than the small sign I parked in front of.

Cryptjitsuu

Apologies I didn't actually attach the image of the car parked behind me.

hxxps://ibb.co/P1PRJ74