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Runningfast
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Hi,
I'm looking to get a new boiler (boiler swap) and been quoted between £1600 - £2100
Is there much difference between Baxi, Ideal and Worcester boilers? The boiler that is being replaced is a 17 year old Worcester 24i junior.
Thanks
I'm looking to get a new boiler (boiler swap) and been quoted between £1600 - £2100
Is there much difference between Baxi, Ideal and Worcester boilers? The boiler that is being replaced is a 17 year old Worcester 24i junior.
Thanks
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Anything wrong with the old one? Mine is 25+ y.o. and I am not looking to get a new one.If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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grumbler said:Anything wrong with the old one? Mine is 25+ y.o. and I am not looking to get a new one.If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Worcester and Vaillant are the best and pricier. Ideal is ok, the price range for purchase and installation is about right but they are only really built to last for 10 years. Anything beyond that is a bonus.No man is worth crawling on this earth.
So much to read, so little time.2 -
Rosa_Damascena said:Worcester and Vaillant are the best and pricier. Ideal is ok, the price range for purchase and installation is about right but they are only really built to last for 10 years. Anything beyond that is a bonus.
The prices given included him providing everything and fitting etc. Though he did say I could buy all the bits (boiler, flue, filter, wireless clock and so on) myself for cheaper than he can provide them and he would just charge to install but obviously any issues with bits not working, or not turning up on time then I would have to sort it out. I want least hassle option so would just pay more for the engineer to provide everything in one package.1 -
Totally agree - get them to do it all. The whole purpose of having a new boiler is to have at least 10 years of zero hassle!WB have the reputation, no question. I would, tho', compare it with he Viessman Vitodens tobesure tobesure.It should cost around the same, tho' could also be fractionally higher depending on which model you go for - the 50, 100 or - gasp - the 200 (the '50' could actually be slightly cheaper, but check them all out for what's included before deciding).Things to check:1) The 10-year warranty. Is the WB's '10' for the exchanger only, or for everything? (I think the Viess is parts and labour for everything).2) What comes with it? The Viess has, I think, weather compensation, a single condensate/safety discharge pipe (only one hole through wall), a filter thrown in, and might even come with Smart WiFi controls.3), er, that's about it.Just compare EVERYTHING you are getting - the full package.They would appear to be of similar quality, but WB has reigned supreme for years, mainly on their (deserved) reputation (tho' even they've had a few bumps along the way - they are not immune), and being a 'safe bet'. Viess are newer to the UK market, but I'd personally give them a serious look too, and they could offer more. If you look at their higher-spec'd models - the 100 and 200, if the initial quotes are higher, they might move on this as they want to compete with WB.Get recommendations from authorised Viess installers.But, of the three you've mentioned, WB.1
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My 14 year old Worcester boiler was services a couple of months ago and the engineer said it has many years of life left in it.
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I’ve heard a few plumbers say that WB aren’t all they’re made out to be I don’t know
ive had a veissman 100 for 12 years now, it’s had a couple of problems over the years, mainly the pressure vessel failing( twice)’ but other than that it’s been ok. Just be aware that with viessman they have to be installed by an accredited viessman installer or the guarantee won’t apply though I suspect this applies to other makes, it came with a 10 year guarantee on the heat exchanger, and 5 years on everything else, oh and the system has to be power flushed and a filter fitted, again I would think this would have to be done with whatever boiler you have1 -
I understand that's true of any make, Alan, for the warranty to be ratified - a flush and a filter, etc. And any 'extended' warranties will almost certainly be dependent on using an 'approved' installer.Yes, even WB had a spate of failed main exchangers at one point, and I think all these 10 years warranties were given out to restore confidence in their products. Hence check what the warranty does cover.From a quick look - so it needs confirming - Viess may have 10 year, P&L, on everything.I doubt there's much to chose between them as actual boilers, so it might come down to the peripheral stuff - warranty and what else is included.0
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As I understand viessman were , and probably still are, manufacturers of industrial boilers but branched out into the domestic market made in Germany, when I need a new boiler, I’ll probably stick with them.1
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Based on my experience of WB boilers in several different properties (including mine), they are excellent.
Only 1 developed a fault, a combi, at around 12 years old without a single service with a perforated heat exchange and faulty expansion vessel. Once parts were replaced (DIYd) it's been fine since. I'd certainly buy another.
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