Who owns my Energy Meters

Reed_Richards

Mister_G said:

Yes the "long range signal" is provided by Arqiva on a dedicated UHF radio network in the North of England and Scotland.  The rest of the UK is provided by the O2 mobile phone network.

I live in the North of England.  When I asked about two and a half years ago, nobody in my village had a working smart meter, two households had applied for smart meters but the installers abandoned the attempt, two households had smart meters that only worked as dumb meters.  The mobile phone reception here is very poor.  How long has this dedicated UHF radio network been operational?

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Reed_Richards said:

Mister_G said:

Yes the "long range signal" is provided by Arqiva on a dedicated UHF radio network in the North of England and Scotland.  The rest of the UK is provided by the O2 mobile phone network.

I live in the North of England.  When I asked about two and a half years ago, nobody in my village had a working smart meter, two households had applied for smart meters but the installers abandoned the attempt, two households had smart meters that only worked as dumb meters.  The mobile phone reception here is very poor.  How long has this dedicated UHF radio network been operational?

From a ScotGov letter dated:

In Scotland, this new radio communications network will be deployed and managed by Arqiva Ltd.

It is important that Local Planning Authorities engage fully with Arqiva at pre-application stage so that Arqiva can factor into the network deployment any anticipated planning matters as early as possible. As the aim is the provision of a network, it is important that collaborative working takes place to encourage development proposals emerging that can be supported by planning authorities. 

I suspect that the issue for some areas is the lack of planning approval for transmitter/relay masts. It is worth looking at your local planning application website.

MWT

QrizB said:

HAN - Home Area Network, a wireless network (similar to wifi) that connects the gas meter and IHD to the comms hub. The comms hub has a wired connection to the electricity meter.

Oddly enough, the only thing the comms hub takes from the electricity meter is power, the data still has to go via the HAN.

QrizB

MWT said:

QrizB said:

HAN - Home Area Network, a wireless network (similar to wifi) that connects the gas meter and IHD to the comms hub. The comms hub has a wired connection to the electricity meter.

Oddly enough, the only thing the comms hub takes from the electricity meter is power, the data still has to go via the HAN.

Really? Odd is definitely the word!

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Going back to the thread title, it is worth pointing out that communication hubs are managed by the DCC not suppliers. For example, hubs have a remote inbuilt reset system. Suppliers can request a hub reset but the DCC has to action it. 

MWT

...and since we are back with the thread title, I guess we should probably mention that the energy suppliers do not generally 'own' the meter, they are responsible for it, but they mostly lease the meters from a 3rd party.

My supplier is Octopus, they arranged the installation of my smart meter using AES, but the meter is owned by Horizon Energy Infrastructure Ltd.

macman

I understood that the meters are owned by the Meter Asset Provider?
https://meteroperators.org.uk/

MWT

macman said:

I understood that the meters are owned by the Meter Asset Provider?
https://meteroperators.org.uk/

They are the operators, not necessarily the owners.

The actual owner is usually marked on the body of the meter.

macman

MWT said:

macman said:

I understood that the meters are owned by the Meter Asset Provider?
https://meteroperators.org.uk/

They are the operators, not necessarily the owners.

The actual owner is usually marked on the body of the meter.

Thanks for the clarification. At least we have established that the meters are not generally owned by the suppliers, nor do they 'inherit' them when they take on the supply.

MWT

macman said:

MWT said:

macman said:

I understood that the meters are owned by the Meter Asset Provider?
https://meteroperators.org.uk/

They are the operators, not necessarily the owners.

The actual owner is usually marked on the body of the meter.

Thanks for the clarification. At least we have established that the meters are not generally owned by the suppliers, nor do they 'inherit' them when they take on the supply.

Indeed, but of course what matters to most residential customers is not who owns them, but who is responsible for them and that of course is always their current energy supplier, it is everything beyond that where it gets complicated