Ground floor claiming something that's not their

yksi

No, sit tight and wait. The owner of the building, that is, the freeholder, has sent a legal letter saying that the ground floor lessee has to do what they're told. Apparently, the ground floor flat's owner has a permanent solicitor managing their affairs and receiving important letters about the flat.

This is good news. Their solicitor will say, "Hey Ground Floor Flat Owner, the freeholder is unhappy because you are breaking the lease. You need to start complying with your lease or you could be in legal trouble with the freeholder." Note she doesn't have any legal trouble from you (at the moment) which is why you don't need a solicitor yourself.

The consequences of her breaking that lease can get very nasty so this will probably be successful. In some cases misbehaviour can make them lose their flat - so usually if they've got a brain and a decent solicitor they will stop doing the wrong thing.

Mind you, I am sure this silly woman will continue to make other problems, but at least you'll get your hallway sorted out.

getmore4less

My first thought when reading(not realising it was a bit old) did you view the flat and the garden?

Were there boxes in the hall and rubbish in the garden then?
Did you not hear the downstairs during the viewing(s)?



 

Newnoel

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dipesh010

Newnoel said:

Please avoid creating duplicate threads on the same topic: 
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I'll continue with this thread - I would like to read their lease. From land registry website which document will provide that info: 
Title register or Title plan?   

Slithery

dipesh010 said:

Newnoel said:

Please avoid creating duplicate threads on the same topic: 
Funny neighbours — MoneySavingExpert Forum

I'll continue with this thread - I would like to read their lease. From land registry website which document will provide that info: 
Title register or Title plan?   

Neither of them. If the Land Registry have a copy of the lease then you need to fill in a OC2 form to request a copy by post.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-copies-of-documents-registration-oc2

canaldumidi

Slithery said:

dipesh010 said:

Newnoel said:

Please avoid creating duplicate threads on the same topic: 
Funny neighbours — MoneySavingExpert Forum

I'll continue with this thread - I would like to read their lease. From land registry website which document will provide that info: 
Title register or Title plan?   

Neither of them. If the Land Registry have a copy of the lease then you need to fill in a OC2 form to request a copy by post.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-copies-of-documents-registration-oc2

and to apply for that you'll need the leasehold title number.

dipesh010

Slithery said:

dipesh010 said:

Newnoel said:

Please avoid creating duplicate threads on the same topic: 
Funny neighbours — MoneySavingExpert Forum

I'll continue with this thread - I would like to read their lease. From land registry website which document will provide that info: 
Title register or Title plan?   

Neither of them. If the Land Registry have a copy of the lease then you need to fill in a OC2 form to request a copy by post.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/official-copies-of-documents-registration-oc2

Thanks - it may not  - the property is not sold for more than 15 years. 

How do I find out what it says in their lease?

As a update: the freeholder sent multiple emails to have those boxes removed. However they are still blocking the electrical meter access (inc storing umbrella near the cupboard) and have other stuff in the lobby

They showed me The First Schedule of their lease. it says the red line area belongs to them and that includes lobby "includes foundation and soil and also the garden area all of which is edge red on the plan". Note: it does not say which garden (front or back) Does this means all area coloured in red on the plan or just red area covered in the garden? if its entire area on the plan then I accept the lobby belongs to them. Their plan is also wired - some area is coloured in red others is in black so what does that means? black coloured line is not theirs i.e their back garden kitchen has black line, means its not their  

I am happy to accept the lobby belongs to them but they haven't showed me the 2nd/3rd Schedule. They might be showing me what they want me to see i.e the lobby belongs to them but I am sure there would be a clause stating to make sure my access is not blocked, electrical meter cupboard is not blocked, cannot store heavy items on top shelves (its a safety concern).   

Also, what happen if something in my lease is not mentioned in their lease? i.e the front garden area belongs to him but walking path in hedge black can be used by me and my lease say I can store my bins in this hedge black area. However the downstairs neighbours are saying I don't see such clause in my lease that says you can store bins in my front garden where its marked hedge black.  Reason I mention is she took my bin and thrown into to my back garden without letting me know. when I asked she said its a private property I can't store bin there. I showed them my lease but they said it says nothing about this in our lease