Speeding fine

Aretnap

di41 said:

AdrianC said:

di41 said:

AdrianC said:

There is no penalty for doing 50 in a 70.

For doing 70 in a 50, though...
Too fast for a course, unfortunately, since it sounds like she'd benefit from it.
Not fast enough for court.
£100, 3pt fixed penalty.

Time for her to drive VERY carefully until her other points fall off some point this year - 12 pts is a totting ban.

That only says to 64mph an offer of the course which I knew she wouldn't get what happens after 64mph !

Blue column. Fixed penalty (if no course) above 57mph. (Below 57mph, no action.)
Green columns. Course from 57 to 64, assuming eligible.
Pink column. Court above 76mph.

So does that mean 3 points for doing 70 !

Yes, a fixed penalty is, erm, fixed at 3 points and £100.

She has the option of not accepting the fixed penalty and arguing her case in court instead. However if she did, the penalty could be significantly higher - that's where the 4-6 points or 28 day ban comes into play. So unless she has a better defence that "I find it difficult to keep track of speed limits" she should accept the fixed penalty when it's offered.

JGB1955

Now I can see why my husband was so quick to accept his 3 points and fine for doing 96mph on the A38 as we approached Plymouth!

Belenus

I was banned for 2 weeks for 104 on a 70 motorway in about 1992. I didn't get any points on my license. It was clean. I was very humble and apologetic in court.

Perhaps the rules have changed since then.

Depending on her plans for the next month she might be better off getting a 28 day ban now and staying on 6 points. 9 points is not a good total to have for another 2 or 3 years..

Of course that means going to court and risking more than 28 days plus a very hefty fine as well.

She needs expert advice on that. Would Pepipoo help?

TadleyBaggie

Going to court and asking for a ban for 70 in a 50 is never going to happen, courts like drivers having plenty of points on the licence, it focusses the mind for the next few years.

AdrianC

Belenus said:

I was banned for 2 weeks for 104 on a 70 motorway in about 1992. I didn't get any points on my license. It was clean. I was very humble and apologetic in court.

Perhaps the rules have changed since then.

No, not really.

104 is more than 96, so straight to court.
If you get a ban, you get it instead of points.

Most people would prefer points to a ban.

TooManyPoints

No need to make it complicated. Her choices are simple. She will almost certainly be offered a Fixed Penalty of £100 and 3 points. If she does not accept that it will be dealt with in court. The normal disposal for that speed (assuming a guilty plea) would be a fine of 66% of a week's net income, a surcharge of 10% of the fine (minimum £34), £85 costs and probably five (though if she's lucky, four) points. So even with a modest income of £250 per week it will cost her over £280. If she is on benefits it will cost her £200 (the court uses a minimum assumed income of £120pw).

If it goes to court it would normally be dealt with under the "Single Justice" procedure at a hearing she cannot attend and the outcome would be as I have explained above. To try to influence the court she would have to ask for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. This would, in my view, be utterly pointless as the court will almost certainly not impose a ban for 50mph in a 70mph limit.

williamgriffin

TooManyPoints said:

No need to make it complicated. Her choices are simple. She will almost certainly be offered a Fixed Penalty of £100 and 3 points. If she does not accept that it will be dealt with in court. The normal disposal for that speed (assuming a guilty plea) would be a fine of 66% of a week's net income, a surcharge of 10% of the fine (minimum £34), £85 costs and probably five (though if she's lucky, four) points. So even with a modest income of £250 per week it will cost her over £280. If she is on benefits it will cost her £200 (the court uses a minimum assumed income of £120pw).

If it goes to court it would normally be dealt with under the "Single Justice" procedure at a hearing she cannot attend and the outcome would be as I have explained above. To try to influence the court she would have to ask for a hearing in the normal Magistrates' Court. This would, in my view, be utterly pointless as the court will almost certainly not impose a ban for 50mph in a 70mph limit.

Something is catching round these parts.

lordmountararat

This would, in my view, be utterly pointless as the court will almost certainly not impose a ban for 50mph in a 70mph limit.

Am I missing something here? Plenty of vehicles trundle along at 50 in a 70. It is not illegal.

TooManyPoints

Am I missing something here? 

No I am. The OP originally (mistakenly) suggested that the offence was 50 in a 70 and corrected it to 70 in a 50 a short while later. since then I've lost my marbles (I blame lockdown   )

Biggus_Dickus

TooManyPoints said:

Am I missing something here? 

No I am. The OP originally (mistakenly) suggested that the offence was 50 in a 70 and corrected it to 70 in a 50 a short while later. since then I've lost my marbles (I blame lockdown   )

     

A refreshingly honest admission there TMP,... not often seen on these pages.

My bag of marbles has long since dispersed,...can’t even blame it on lockdown.