Alternatives to Morningstar X-ray ....?

valiant24

I and my wife have investments spanning about a dozen wrappers: SIPPs, personal pensions ISAs, dealing accounts etc.
Some, eg AJ Bell, provide a view across the assets in any one account, but even that's not that useful when between us we have 5 accounts with them.   If I want to see the asset allocation of our entire portfolio - which is surely what ultimately matters? - over region, sector etc, the only tool I can find is the Morningstar X-Ray tool, available as part of its £19-per-month premium service.
The trouble is that in pretty much every other way, the Morningstar Portfolio Tool is truly execrable. It too analyses over only one portfolio at a time, so you have to load all your holdings into a dummy one; it has no load from CSV function so you have laboriously to type in each and every holding; I get an error every time I subscribe and have to call a Helpdesk with poor language skills ... it's just truly, truly awful.
I'd happily code something myself if I could find a reliable and comprehensive source of fund as well as stock prices.
How do other private investors handle this ....?
Thanks
V

NottinghamKnight

Trustnet.....

Alexland

valiant24 said:

eg AJ Bell, provide a view across the assets in any one account, but even that's not that useful when between us we have 5 accounts with them.

In addition to the account view AJ Bell customers can also use the X-Ray tool in the Research Centre to enter up to 10 different investments and specify a percentage or value allocation between them to generate a custom report.

https://www.youinvest.co.uk/research-tools/xray

valiant24 said:

How do other private investors handle this ....?

By keeping our accounts simple enough that the free tools are good enough.

valiant24

Thanks.  I had looked at Trustnet, but gave up as it lacks a search facility: you have to know what classification and what manager before you can even try to find your asset.
I know the ISIN of pretty much all my holdings, but that can't be used to search for them on Trustnet.
I failed to find the first three I tried:

1. AVI Global Trust (AVI not listed as a manager)
2. Fresnilo (not in its list of international equities)
3. Baillie Gifford Japan Trust (many such trusts are listed on the Trustnet Portfolio adder, but I've no way, absent display of the ISIN, to know which is the correct one)

... so after 0 out of 3, I gave up.
If I'm being stupid and/or missing a trick, please do let me know though!
Thanks!

valiant24

>> In addition to the account view AJ Bell customers can also use the X-Ray tool in the Research Centre to enter up to 10 different investments and specify a percentage or value allocation between them to generate a custom report.
Didn't know that.  Thanks.  Doesn't help me much sadly as I have about 50 holdings.

>. By keeping our accounts simple enough that the free tools are good enough.
Very good :-)

Thrugelmir

valiant24 said:

Thanks.  I had looked at Trustnet, but gave up as it lacks a search facility: you have to know what classification and what manager before you can even try to find your asset.
I know the ISIN of pretty much all my holdings, but that can't be used to search for them on Trustnet.
I failed to find the first three I tried:

1. AVI Global Trust (AVI not listed as a manager)
2. Fresnilo (not in its list of international equities)
3. Baillie Gifford Japan Trust (many such trusts are listed on the Trustnet Portfolio adder, but I've no way, absent display of the ISIN, to know which is the correct one)

... so after 0 out of 3, I gave up.
If I'm being stupid and/or missing a trick, please do let me know though!
Thanks!

Trustnet is owned by Interactive Investor. Companies will pay for inclusion. Free services have to be paid for one way or the other.  

bowlhead99

valiant24 said:

I failed to find the first three I tried:

1. AVI Global Trust (AVI not listed as a manager)
2. Fresnilo (not in its list of international equities)
3. Baillie Gifford Japan Trust (many such trusts are listed on the Trustnet Portfolio adder, but I've no way, absent display of the ISIN, to know which is the correct one)

... so after 0 out of 3, I gave up.
If I'm being stupid and/or missing a trick, please do let me know though!
Thanks!

1. the Fund Universe is 'Investment Trusts' rather than 'Unit Trusts & OEICs'. In the management group dropdown, the full name of AVI is Asset Value Investors (they have two trusts listed).

2. Fresnillo plc is listed on the main market of the London stock exchange and is in the FTSE100. So, you would find it in UK equities rather than international equities

3. Same as for (1.) above, Baillie Gifford Japan Trust is found under 'Investment Trusts' rather than 'Unit Trusts & OEICs'.  In the management group dropdown, select Baillie Gifford & Co Ltd


jh

Alistair31

NottinghamKnight said:

Trustnet.....

Doesn’t let you enter sell transactions, which is annoying. 

Linton

I use the Morning star premium service - its vital for my investment strategy.  I find it fine to use.  You can hold a large number of  separate portfolios.  It is far more inclusive than Trustnet which only has data on those funds that pay to be included so you are likely to find large %s classified under "other".  Another problem with Trustnet is that its sector and geography classifications arent standardised.  So for example sometimes geographies are classified under continents, sometimes under individual countries, sometimes both.
One area where Trustnet wins is with its charting which is excellent. Another is that researching sectors is far easier than morningstar where you really need to know the fund's full name before you start.  To find a fund in morningstar I tend to use Google.

However there is no point in complaining about them, they are the only game in town, at least for the amateur investor.

valiant24

Linton said:

However there is no point in complaining about them, they are the only game in town, at least for the amateur investor.

Yes, this is the impression that I get, sadly.  I just loathe the clunky interface and the terrible customer service.
Noted that you can have multiple portfolios in Morningstar, but I am right that you cannot "x-ray" across multiple portfolios, am I not?

Linton

valiant24 said:

Linton said:

However there is no point in complaining about them, they are the only game in town, at least for the amateur investor.

Yes, this is the impression that I get, sadly.  I just loathe the clunky interface and the terrible customer service.
Noted that you can have multiple portfolios in Morningstar, but I am right that you cannot "x-ray" across multiple portfolios, am I not?

You cant x-ray across multiple portfolios, but I cant see why many people would want to.

I run 3 separate portfolios and so do need an overall view.  I have set up 1 morningstar portfolio for each of those and use  a spreadsheet to merge the data. 

I dont really see your problem with Morningstar.  It works well enough to do the job.  Any clunkiness and one or two minor bugs are more than made up for by the excellent data.