Removing holiday let planning permission

Dillon141

A house near me in North Wales was granted planning permission to convert their outbuildings into a holiday let. 

They have now sold the house separately and now want to sell the holiday let.  

It seems strange to have a stand-alone holiday let which is now not part of the original property. I was wondering if there are any circumstance where the council would be willing to lift the restriction and allow the property to be a normal dwelling?   

I am local, prices for houses locally are off the scale, and I want to stay local. Is this not a set of circumstances that is perfect to change the allowed use?  

Dillon141

Anybody ? :-/

greatcrested

Dillon141 said:

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It seems strange to have a stand-alone holiday let which is now not part of the original property. I was wondering if there are any circumstance where the council would be willing to lift the restriction and allow the property to be a normal dwelling?   

.... Is this not a set of circumstances that is perfect to change the allowed use?  

Nthing strange abou that. Thousands of properties are both'stand-alone' and used as holiday lets.

The 'circumstances' you describe are irrelevant, but applying for Change of Use is unlikely to be refused (subject tolocal conditions).

Either the current owers, or  new owner, could apply.

If in doubt, have a (Covid-safe) chat with a Planner.

davidmcn

If the consent was granted relatively recently, the reasons why the use was restricted in the first place probably haven't changed. And as above, I don't see anything strange in a holiday let not being ancillary to another house.

Davesnave

greatcrested said:

Dillon141 said:

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It seems strange to have a stand-alone holiday let which is now not part of the original property. I was wondering if there are any circumstance where the council would be willing to lift the restriction and allow the property to be a normal dwelling?   

.... Is this not a set of circumstances that is perfect to change the allowed use?  

The 'circumstances' you describe are irrelevant, but applying for Change of Use is unlikely to be refused (subject tolocal conditions).

Either the current owers, or  new owner, could apply.

If in doubt, have a (Covid-safe) chat with a Planner.

Did you mean unlikely?

I have a feeling that holidays in this country are going to be very popular this year, so unless the owner can show a sound reason for removing these holiday lets from the local stock, changing their status will be the last thing the council will do.

They should really be encouraging housing trusts to build affordable new properties for local families.

greatcrested

Ooops yes, I did mean unlikely.

You may be right. But equally the need and demand for homes is also high on most councils' agendas.

Dillon141

Thank you for your answers.
What I meant with strange is that it looks odd as the house and outbuildings are set away from the road as one resident and to us locally now it looks strange that two houses exist there. I understand when the original owners converted it it made sense but seems strange to sell them apart- visually if not legally. Lol.

I believe the original owner did ask the council straight away after building but was told NO! .... I was wondering if maybe they would change their minds to provide a local person the chance to live locally. 

Although I’m sure planning regulations don’t allow for this, I would gladly sign to not sell the property for 10 years for example if that condition could be removed, as I DO actually want to live here, not change the use just to sell it for a profit. I would also sign that if my circumstances changed in those times and I HAD to sell that the original condition be re-imposed! 

If only eh ..... :-/

Dillon141

I believe planning permission for the holiday let was granted in 2015 and it was completed in 2017.

The only change in circumstances really is that the original owner has sold the house separately (on different deeds), and now will be looking to sell the holiday let also. The Holiday Let and the Main House share a road now for access. 

Dillon141

Out of interest, what would be the circumstances that would make the council re-think? So if it was shown that it is unviable as a holiday let (not attracting enough bookings for example?) they may re-think?

I heard from someone who worked at a bank that some are allowed to change usage years down the line, but for reasons to do with the owner. For example, they had nowhere else to live, or they had a disabled child and the holiday let was most suitable place for housing for them.

Anyone have any insight into what exactly would change the council’s mind? 

Thanks.

Davesnave

Financial unviability was the reason for a change from holiday lets to residential for a dozen units close to me, but that was in 1989.

For any change related to businesses and planning a record needs to be established. For example, accounts for 5 years must be provided before temporary accommodation may be made permanent when connected to a rural business in my county. This is to ensure fake businesses aren't created to get around planning restrictions.

Your local authority may have its own guidance & policies. If the planning was only granted in 2017, it could be argued that not enough time has elapsed to prove or disprove its appropriateness.

AdrianC

I'm not sure why it would matter whether the holiday let is owned/managed by the house next door or somebody else nearby.

The holiday let itself is exactly what it was when permission was granted. No more, no less. It's that property, next to that property. Whether the two properties are in the same ownership or not doesn't affect the "visuals".