Can you regain a housing association/council tenancy?

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Has your Dr diagnosed what exactly is causing your current problems and have you identified what matching substances are in your property? I would think that you could possibly work on eliminating the source of the problems where you are already rather than dealing with the stress of constantly moving to hopefully find somewhere that doesn't react with you.

wilfred30

Robokid40 said:

wilfred30 said:

Unlikely given that you intend to relinquish your tenancy rather than having been 'unfairly forced to leave it.

If your condition is not recognised as physical (rather than psychiatric) in the UK, I think it's a big leap to think that your case alone will change that.

If a place is making u so I’ll that you’d rather live on the street and the council aren’t helping u because of a psychiatric diagnoses, wouldn’t you consider that being forced to leave or voluntarily relinquishing ones tenancy?

No, I don't.

Robokid40

davidmcn said:

It's not clear from your posts what is specifically wrong with the current accommodation, or what you expect the council to do. Are you saying they should be able somehow to ascertain which premises you're not going to be "hypersensitive" to?

 
If you find the cause and it’s repairable then I only need to fix that and I’d rather do so than go through the stress of a move.

however sometimes the cause is not known and too difficult to find so it’s best to just move.  With my current property I threw most of my furniture away, redid the floors to 0 voc etc and it seems to me there’s something in the atmosphere but I still don’t know where it’s coming from.  It could even be something coming from  she’d, building exhaust or even the amount of ozone in the atmosphere.

if it’s easy to find and fix I would have happily done that but it’s not and sometimes it’s better to move.  In countries like japan and some European countries the governments have built specialists accomodaton for people with this condition.  

Since the uk hasn’t caught on yet, and if you can’t find the cause soon, all you can do is keep moving until u get it right so that’s what I’d want from the council.

Robokid40

Seashell517 said:

Robokid40 said:

elsien said:

Even if they accept your diagnosis as physical, that doesn’t necessarily make much difference. There are a lot of people with physical disabilities or health needs who are unsuitably housed because the provision just isn’t there to move them somewhere more suited to their needs. I’m thinking of people with mobility problems in flats with no lift, for example, 
It does rather beg the question though as to why if there are so many places you can tolerate that you didn’t stay put when you were living in one of them? 

I expect you’d have to go back on the list and have your priority assessed again. Obviously you won’t get your specific tenancy back because you’ve given it up as you don’t feel it’s meeting your needs. 

I guess I’d have a higher priority than people with mobility problems unless the people with mobility problems are living on the street.  If it takes someone an hour to get up the stairs but they can then occupy their home or they have a carer who does shopping for th etc that is better than my condition from a housing perspective.  If I am severely reacting to the air that I can’t stay in the flat at all that is worse then struggling to get up stairs and no carer will be able to change my tolerance of the air.

as for begging the question, by stayed in other places I mean staying with  relatives etc.

 

You don't get to decide who is and isn't more of a priority than you, and if your condition isn't recognised then I doubt that you would get an increased priority. 

Maybe try arranging a swap with another council tenant instead of giving up your tenancy? 

I’ve tried and continue to try to swap and am willing to go to distant areas but most people on mutual exchange sites seem to be time wasters or are just testing the waters.  
 

KatrinaWaves

Robokid40 said:

davidmcn said:

It's not clear from your posts what is specifically wrong with the current accommodation, or what you expect the council to do. Are you saying they should be able somehow to ascertain which premises you're not going to be "hypersensitive" to?

 
If you find the cause and it’s repairable then I only need to fix that and I’d rather do so than go through the stress of a move.

however sometimes the cause is not known and too difficult to find so it’s best to just move.  With my current property I threw most of my furniture away, redid the floors to 0 voc etc and it seems to me there’s something in the atmosphere but I still don’t know where it’s coming from.  It could even be something coming from  she’d, building exhaust or even the amount of ozone in the atmosphere.

if it’s easy to find and fix I would have happily done that but it’s not and sometimes it’s better to move.  In countries like japan and some European countries the governments have built specialists accomodaton for people with this condition.  

Since the uk hasn’t caught on yet, and if you can’t find the cause soon, all you can do is keep moving until u get it right so that’s what I’d want from the council.

The council are not going to keep spending resources on housing you without a medical need that has been established in some way. Otherwise people would abuse this to get a nicer house, in a better area, with nicer neighbours, or a bungalow etc etc. 

If you have a medical need you can explain to them then they can help. You say other countries have built accommodation to suit people like you, so the triggering things must be known in order for these places to exist, so why can’t you explain what it is exactly that is the issue, if countries have been able to build houses to counteract them? 

davidmcn

Robokid40 said:

davidmcn said:

It's not clear from your posts what is specifically wrong with the current accommodation, or what you expect the council to do. Are you saying they should be able somehow to ascertain which premises you're not going to be "hypersensitive" to?

all you can do is keep moving until u get it right so that’s what I’d want from the council.

Well, that's not going to happen. 

elsien

There is no internationally agreed consensus or diagnostic criteria on the possible causes, symptoms or psychological components of multiple chemical sensitivity, 
And the States do have a bit of a tendency to medicalise and pathologise behaviours.
On that basis, if you are waiting for it to be recognised here and specialist housing built I think you are in for a very long wait. 

HampshireH

Robokid40 said:

davidmcn said:

It's not clear from your posts what is specifically wrong with the current accommodation, or what you expect the council to do. Are you saying they should be able somehow to ascertain which premises you're not going to be "hypersensitive" to?

 
If you find the cause and it’s repairable then I only need to fix that and I’d rather do so than go through the stress of a move.

however sometimes the cause is not known and too difficult to find so it’s best to just move.  With my current property I threw most of my furniture away, redid the floors to 0 voc etc and it seems to me there’s something in the atmosphere but I still don’t know where it’s coming from.  It could even be something coming from  she’d, building exhaust or even the amount of ozone in the atmosphere.

if it’s easy to find and fix I would have happily done that but it’s not and sometimes it’s better to move.  In countries like japan and some European countries the governments have built specialists accomodaton for people with this condition.  

Since the uk hasn’t caught on yet, and if you can’t find the cause soon, all you can do is keep moving until u get it right so that’s what I’d want from the council.

You have got no chance. No council is going to act on this. I have NEVER recommended anyone give up a social tenancy. But in your case private rental sounds suitable so you can move every six months.

You will just be wasting the council and your own medical professionals time by routinely pursuing moves in social housing unless you take responsibility to do it yourself by swapping on a mutual exchange.

Specifically, what is this American and Japanese diagnosis? 

It it's the ozone causing you a problem how do you ever see a resolution?

frogglet

I would stay where I am and look at dehumidifiers with filters and air purifiers and possibly air conditioning for summer. Some air purifiers emit ozone,  so you need to find one which doesn't.  
I doubt keep moving is going to solve your problems as it hasn't up to now.
At least social housing will give you stability and work from there.
There are hundreds of people in totally inadequate housing, so I think you need to count your blessings that you live in a place where you aren't actually forced to move   it is actually your choice.

carefullycautious

frogglet said:

I would stay where I am and look at dehumidifiers with filters and air purifiers and possibly air conditioning for summer. Some air purifiers emit ozone,  so you need to find one which doesn't.  
I doubt keep moving is going to solve your problems as it hasn't up to now.
At least social housing will give you stability and work from there.
There are hundreds of people in totally inadequate housing, so I think you need to count your blessings that you live in a place where you aren't actually forced to move   it is actually your choice.

This!
What are your symptoms and have you had to be hospitalized or have treatment from your GP for them?