Public sector employee no furlough

RedLimaA

Hello, 

Does anyone know if public sector employees who aren't eligible to request furlough can get financial support if they request reduced working hours? I.e paid leave?

Gov guidance is unclear:

If you’re a public sector employee

Where organisations receive public funding for staff costs we expect employers to pay staff as usual – and correspondingly not furlough them.

Only organisations that are not fully funded by public grants should consider accessing the scheme. Your employer should contact their sponsor department or respective administration for specific queries.

It doesn't state what exactly we'd be 'paid as usual' for? 

Thanks.

Grumpy_chap

Who is making the request for reduced hours?  The employee or the employer.
Why is the request being made?

Andy_L

RedLimaA said:

Hello, 

Does anyone know if public sector employees who aren't eligible to request furlough can get financial support if they request reduced working hours? I.e paid leave?

Gov guidance is unclear:

If you’re a public sector employee

Where organisations receive public funding for staff costs we expect employers to pay staff as usual – and correspondingly not furlough them.

Only organisations that are not fully funded by public grants should consider accessing the scheme. Your employer should contact their sponsor department or respective administration for specific queries.

It doesn't state what exactly we'd be 'paid as usual' for? 

Thanks.

Paid as usual for doing your job
Paid as usual for being redeployed into another role
Paid as usual for sat at home doing nothing in the unlikely event that the 1st 2 can't happen.

If just want to do less hours then you will just be paid less

Barny1979

Why do you want Furlough?

JamoLew

Furlough is a job retention scheme

Public Sector workers who are effectively paid for by the government/tax payer have little to worry about their job security (very grateful for that)  

No Public Sector workers (afaik) are "entitled" to furlough as you link suggests

RedLimaA

Barny1979 said:

Why do you want Furlough?

For childcare / home schooling reasons. Even though it's a job retention scheme I believe working parents are encouraged to request it if they need help with that.

RedLimaA

Grumpy_chap said:

Who is making the request for reduced hours?  The employee or the employer.
Why is the request being made?

Employee, to help have more hours dedicated to child care and schooling.
All annual leave has been used to cover reduction in hours but it only covers three weeks. 

JamoLew

You can ask to have your hours reduced (and paid accordingly) OR take unpaid leave.

Furlough isn't a substitute for childcare/school 

Are you not able to send your child to school as a key worker ?

Barny1979

RedLimaA said:

Barny1979 said:

Why do you want Furlough?

For childcare / home schooling reasons. Even though it's a job retention scheme I believe working parents are encouraged to request it if they need help with that.

Key worker status or flexible working?

Andy_L

JamoLew said:

You can ask to have your hours reduced (and paid accordingly) OR take unpaid leave.

Furlough isn't a substitute for childcare/school 

Are you not able to send your child to school as a key worker ?

"If you have caring responsibilities

You can be furloughed if caring responsibilities arising from Coronavirus (COVID-19) mean you are:

unable to work (including from home)

working reduced hours

Examples of caring responsibilities include caring for:

children who are at home as a result of school or childcare facilities closing

a vulnerable individual in your household"
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-you-could-be-covered-by-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme#check-if-youre-eligible

Andy_L

RedLimaA said:

Barny1979 said:

Why do you want Furlough?

For childcare / home schooling reasons. Even though it's a job retention scheme I believe working parents are encouraged to request it if they need help with that.

So what has your employer said when you asked for "childcare furlough"?