Return a ring to jeweller

Gsp23

Hello all

i recently bought a ring from a jeweller for an engagement. I paid cash. 

A couple of days after I noticed imperfections in the diamond that I didn’t notice at the time. I’ve since Googled that these are normal. 

It got me thinking could it be second hand. I have since found out that it is. When I bought it, nothing indicated that it’s second hand. No labels, not told by staff etc. 

So where do I stand to return. What’s the best approach. 

A) I’m not happy it’s second hand 
I’m not happy at the imperfection in the diamond.
Thanks in advance 

Penguin_

How do you know it's second hand?

KatrinaWaves

Was it sold as new? Depending on the type of store it could be totally normal for the rings to be vintage/antique or 'second hand' as you put it. What type of shop was it?

You know yourself that the imperfections are normal. Perfect diamonds are extremely rare and therefore extremely expensive.

Pollycat

I don't understand why Googling imperfections led you to suspect that the diamond was second hand.

Most diamonds you will buy new will have varying degrees of inclusions (imperfections) - unless you have very deep pockets.

The time to Google inclusions in a diamond (aka clarity) is before you buy.

The clarity of a diamond refers to inclusions which can be black, grey or white marks that internally flaw the diamonds structure. These small imperfections are graded under 10 x magnification which is the standard to grade diamond clarity. A diamond with fewer inclusions is both rarer and more desired which makes it also more expensive. Diamond clarity from IF to VS2 will sparkle with intensity whereas diamonds from SI1 to SI2 will sparkle and I1 to I3 will lack sparkle and life with the inclusions being noticeable to the naked eye. All conditions being constant, the less inclusions the greater the life and sparkle of a diamond and the more one will pay.

https://www.comparethediamond.com/diamond-clarity-explained/

So are you looking at the diamond with a 10 x loupe or with the naked eye?

Are you looking at the diamond in a much better light than in the jewellers?

The cost of an internally flawless (IF) diamond will be exponentially more expensive than one of the same colour and carat of a lesser clarity.

Was it a high street chain or an independent jeweller?

I've looked in lots of jewellers, most have 2nd hand stuff clearly marked.

How did you choose this shop to buy from?

Do you know the colour, carat and clarity of the diamond you bought?

How much did you pay?

Sandtree

Gsp23 said:

Hello all

i recently bought a ring from a jeweller for an engagement. I paid cash. 

A couple of days after I noticed imperfections in the diamond that I didn’t notice at the time. I’ve since Googled that these are normal. 

It got me thinking could it be second hand. I have since found out that it is. When I bought it, nothing indicated that it’s second hand. No labels, not told by staff etc. 

So where do I stand to return. What’s the best approach. 

A) I’m not happy it’s second hand 
I’m not happy at the imperfection in the diamond.
Thanks in advance 

If the imperfections are in the diamond then they have probably been there for a million plus years and has nothing to do with it being "new" or secondhand or fifthhand 

A perfect diamond would be an ideal cut, D colour and Flawless, for a 1 caret stone like that you'd be paying £15,000 to a decent diamond dealer and a lot more to a jeweler.  Even just dropping to VVS1, which are inclusions only just visible with a 10x scope and you can comfortably get one for £10,000. VS2, where they can just about be seen with the naked eye but very visible with a 10x scope and you are just over £5,000.

So if you want a perfect diamond are you willing to pay over 3 times as much?

How did you "find out" that it was secondhand? Whats your issue with that? Stones are millions of years old even if you buy it "brand new" and will have been sold and resold several times before it even got stuck in a mount. 

If it is indeed secondhand and you want to replace a secondhand ring with inclusions for a brand new flawless ring then that three times as much could well become 4 to 6 times as much.

Aylesbury_Duck

OP, do you think the imperfections were caused by a previous owner?  If you do, you're wrong.  That doesn't change its status as second hand (if it is), but the imperfections are not a consequence of it being used.

Gsp23

That’s fair enough - though the fact it’s second hand bothers me because it wasn’t advertised as such. Surely if it’s not then it would have to say? Another jeweller up the street had some nice ones though cleanly labelled them as second hand.
I appreciate oats the diamonds are repurposed though I’d have preferred a brand new ring at least. 

Spank

Do you know for a fact it's 2nd hand?

born_again

What is 2nd hand? The ring or just the diamond?

It's not uncommon for stones to be taken from a old ring and reset into a new band.

Pollycat

OP

You've been asked several questions by different posters.
Perhaps you could read the replies you've had and answer those questions.

[Deleted User]

Another prime example of drip feeding information and not answering questions.