could I of gone to devon?

clive0510

A minor family dispute. my sister is telling me that I could of gone to see my mum over christmas after all. she says providing I stayed with my mum, and didnt go visiting everyone, I could of gone as mums support bubble for a few days. but I thought you can only do that for one day. and I can not go to devon and back in one day. its to far.
Also on the government website it clearly states if you live in tier 1 2 or 3, you must not see anyone from tier 4. so I live in tier 4 and my mum and all the rest of the family live in tier 2. 
also bear in mind mum is nearly 80, and has a lung condition. so armed with that information, who would you say is correct under the rules as laid down by Boris & co, myself or my sister? I'm convinced I am correct.

thegentleway

You can form a support bubble with your mum provided she lives on her own and isn't a support bubble with anybody else.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-support-bubble-with-another-household

clive0510

ok. thanks for the reply and the link. It looks as though my sister is correct. I was under the impression it couldnt be done. thanks anyway.

Thrugelmir

 If you'd prefer not to exposure your mother to any undue risk. Then you are correct. We are all adults and perfectly capable of  our own sensible decisions. Maintain regular contact with your mother through other means until such time that it's appropriate to meet up. 

clive0510

Tbh the rules and guidelines were all so confusing, I was finding it a little stress full.it didnt help with the decision by the government to cancel christmas being so last minute. as it turns out I've got every ones presents to go there, in my spare room, and every thing that needs to come here and be distributed is stuck 250 miles away. never mind. Trying not to be angry!

Barny1979

No point getting angry, it won't help you, especially if you're still feeling low.

Neil49

I would say that you shouldn't have gone to see her regardless of how your sister has interpreted a support bubble. 
The gov website states :

"If you form a support bubble, it is best if this is with a household who live locally. This will help prevent the virus spreading from an area where more people are infected" 

You aren't local and would therefore be capable of transmitting the virus to a completely different location. 

Barny1979

Neil49 said:

I would say that you shouldn't have gone to see her regardless of how your sister has interpreted a support bubble. 
The gov website states :

"If you form a support bubble, it is best if this is with a household who live locally. This will help prevent the virus spreading from an area where more people are infected" 

You aren't local and would therefore be capable of transmitting the virus to a completely different location. 

It depends on the OP's circumstances, my support bubble is 60 miles away, but I have minimal contact with people since March and parents are housebound.

JGB1955

You COULD have done but have been good enough not to.   Who is in your Mum's support bubble?.... clue... you can't change it at the drop of a hat. 

clive0510

JGB1955 said:

You COULD have done but have been good enough not to.   Who is in your Mum's support bubble?.... clue... you can't change it at the drop of a hat. 

well thats it. I dont think she has a nominated support bubble. so I could of been that I suppose. but because of Boris's last minute 'tier 4 stay at home'plan, we cancelled everything at both ends, and we all had our own christmas in our own houses!

Grumpy_chap

Hi Clive, hope you are having a bit more of a better time now. 

Did you manage to catch up with the friend down the road, even by phone or outside and socially distanced?

As I interpret the rules, you could have visited your mother and stayed so long as that was her support bubble (and yours).  The guidance also says to minimise travel and you may have wished to consider any risk to your elderly mother.  The risk could be very low if you have been mostly on your own in any  case.  It  is understandable there was some confusion about the rules and the guidance.

You could still arrange to see your mother for New Year.