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  • Katiehound
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    edited 22 December 2020 at 2:54PM
    Ah, I didn't see page 3

    That's dearer for rabies vacc- think 'mine' was £35 last year
    Microchipping already necc to comply with law (and still possibly free/ cheap from a charity)
    You no longer need the blood test
    and you can't need both Pet Passport and Health cert!- so maybe £84? for the Animal Health cert.

    My 'boy' has his booster next week so I will be asking at my vet to see if their charges are sorted yet.
    Being polite and pleasant doesn't cost anything!
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    2024:Sewn:59Doggy ds,52pyramids,18 bags,6spec cases,6lav.bags.
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  • Katiehound
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    When my dog went for his booster today (ha, just before lock down!) I asked about the Animal Health Cert  and was told that they nothing about it- still waiting for info!
     I don't actually believe that- just too much trouble to find anything out when they were busy!

    Anyhow I don't think we shall be going anywhere for a while !
    Being polite and pleasant doesn't cost anything!
    -Stash bust:in 2022:337
    Stash bust :2023. 120duvets, 24bags,43dogcoats, 2scrunchies, 10mitts, 6 bootees, 8spec cases, 2 A6notebooks, 59cards, 6 lav bags,36 angels,9 bones,1 blanket, 1 lined bag,3 owls, 88 pyramids = total 420total spend £5.Total for 'Dogs for Good' £546.82

    2024:Sewn:59Doggy ds,52pyramids,18 bags,6spec cases,6lav.bags.
    Knits:6covers,4hats,10mitts,2 bootees.
    Crotchet:61angels, 229cards=453 £158.55profit!!!
    2025 3dduvets
  • Katiehound
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    No, my vet is not on that list- but that is for an livestock export licence- I'm not exporting my dogs!! There are no local vets on that list
     My vet was registered to issue & sign the pet passport scheme so I assume they are going to continue with the replacement scheme?

    Won't worry at present- tier 4- as most of the country.

    Being polite and pleasant doesn't cost anything!
    -Stash bust:in 2022:337
    Stash bust :2023. 120duvets, 24bags,43dogcoats, 2scrunchies, 10mitts, 6 bootees, 8spec cases, 2 A6notebooks, 59cards, 6 lav bags,36 angels,9 bones,1 blanket, 1 lined bag,3 owls, 88 pyramids = total 420total spend £5.Total for 'Dogs for Good' £546.82

    2024:Sewn:59Doggy ds,52pyramids,18 bags,6spec cases,6lav.bags.
    Knits:6covers,4hats,10mitts,2 bootees.
    Crotchet:61angels, 229cards=453 £158.55profit!!!
    2025 3dduvets
  • If O obtain an Irish Pet Passport, even though we are UK based, will that allow me to avoid the cost of the AHC? We travel to ROI four or five times a year
    Lynchb
  • Emmia
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    Lynchb said:
    If O obtain an Irish Pet Passport, even though we are UK based, will that allow me to avoid the cost of the AHC? We travel to ROI four or five times a year
    Lynchb
    Although you visit 4 or 5 times a year, you're not resident in Ireland and therefore your pet is not entitled to an Irish pet passport  - so unfortunately you can't avoid the cost/ requirements of the AHC through this method.
  • sheramber
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    THE KENNEL CLUB WELCOMES SELECT COMMITTEE INQUIRY AFTER PET TRAVEL BREXIT U-TURNThe organisation has raised concerns about eleventh-hour backtrack on pet travel rules between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain and backs new inquiry
    The UK’s biggest organisation dedicated to dog health and welfare is welcoming the announcement (21 January 2021) from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (EFRA) Select Committee, launching an inquiry into how new Brexit regulations will impact on animal welfare, disease control and the industry interests.
    Due to concerns about the barriers, inconsistencies and the wide-ranging negative impacts for dogs, puppies and owners, The Kennel Club is urging a Government rethink on post-Brexit pet travel rules and will be submitting evidence to the newly launched inquiry.
    In an apparent U-turn by Brexit officials, dogs, cats and ferrets need a health certificate and rabies inoculation to travel from Great Britain to Northern Ireland from January 1st 2021. This is required for each journey between the two nations and is expected to typically cost in excess of £100 per issue. Meanwhile, dog owners in Northern Ireland must obtain a European Union pet passport to re-enter the nation following a visit to mainland Britain. In both cases, dog owners are required to take their dog to a vet for tapeworm treatment just days before entering Northern Ireland.
    “During the EFRA Select Committee hearing in November, the Government gave assurance that there would be no difference in paperwork for pet owners wishing to travel between Somerset and Northern Ireland than if they were to travel from Somerset to Scotland or Wales,” said Ed Hayes, Policy and Public Affairs Manager at The Kennel Club. “Unfortunately, it is now clear that this is not the case.
    “These requirements mean that anyone travelling between Great Britain and Northern Ireland with their pets – whether holidaying or re-locating – must now comply with financially burdensome, inconvenient and simply bureaucratic new rules, organising complex paperwork and more trips to the vet. There is also a potential consequence of pets being over-medicated unnecessarily.”
    In another inconvenience for pet owners, Brexit red tape means that owners will be unable to take their pet’s food, if it contains meat, dairy or fish, when holidaying in the EU.
    The Kennel Club has also raised concerns about the serious implications of the policy for responsible puppy buying and breeding. For animal welfare reasons – due to puppy development and socialisation – it is widely agreed that puppies should be homed at around eight weeks old, yet the new rules restrict pet travel from Great Britain to Northern Ireland until the puppy is at least 15 weeks old. In practice, this also means that breeders with new owners based in Northern Ireland will be required to care for puppies for longer than recommended, including socialising and training a litter, and being separated from mum at 15 weeks rather than eight could potentially increase separation anxiety for puppies. This policy, which is at odds with other UK nations, could essentially end the legal purchase of puppies by those in Northern Ireland from breeders based in Great Britain.
    Similarly, The Kennel Club is seeking urgent clarification about whether a rabies vaccination is required before a dog can be transported from Northern Ireland to Great Britain, and thereby whether the 15 week minimum age rule will apply to all puppy movements between the two nations. If this is the case, the organisation anticipates that this will have a negative impact on Northern Irish dog breeders, who need a wide and open market to make responsible choices when selecting new owners. This could be particularly devastating for those who are committed to protecting vulnerable dog breeds which are at risk of extinction in the UK, where breeders already face a restricted market and often travel far and wide to ensure that they get the most suitable matches for producing the healthiest possible puppies.
    Further, where puppies can be transported to Great Britain at eight weeks, in the event of an issue arising for a new owner, they couldn’t return a puppy to the breeder in Northern Ireland until they are 15 weeks old. This does not support responsible puppy buying and could result in more dogs being abandoned in the UK.
    The Kennel Club also welcomes the EFRA Select Committee’s commitment to improving animal welfare, with the inquiry providing the opportunity to review whether stronger action can be taken to further clamp down on the cruel illegal puppy trade, now that Great Britain has exited the EU.
    “These rules, which the EFRA Select Committee inquiry will examine, affect animal welfare, distinguishing the issue from other Brexit trade or travel disputes,” added Ed. “We’re glad our concerns are shared and this problematic policy is being reviewed, and we will be submitting evidence to the inquiry whilst continuing to urge the Government to seek a solution, and to deliver on the promises made just a few months ago.”
    Further advice for owners about pet travel and Brexit is available on The Kennel Club website: thekennelclub.org.uk/brexit.
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  • sheramber
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    Updates

    We are pleased that the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee has launched an inquiry into the new Brexit regulations and how they will affect pet travel. The inquiry will cover how the new rules will impact animal welfare and disease control. We will be engaging with the committee’s inquiry and will submit our thoughts on behalf of those who travel between GB, NI and the EU with their dogs to breed, sell, show or holiday.

    The Northern Irish Agriculture Minister, Edwin Poots, has announced the extension of the education phase of the new pet travel rules. This means that, until 1 July 2021, routine checks at the border will not commence to allow pet owners time to adjust to the new regulations in place. Mr Poots has also announced that he will continue to press his Westminster and EU counterparts for the establishment of a Common Travel Area.

    How to help

    If you have concerns regarding this situation and how it will impact you directly, we would strongly advise contacting your local representative – your Member of Parliament or Member of the Legislative Assembly if you are based in NI – to request that they also raise their concerns with DEFRA and/or the Northern Irish Executive on your behalf.

    For more information email Campaigns (The Kennel Club).

  • Katiehound
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    How to help

    If you have concerns regarding this situation and how it will impact you directly, we would strongly advise contacting your local representative – your Member of Parliament or Member of the Legislative Assembly if you are based in NI – to request that they also raise their concerns with DEFRA and/or the Northern Irish Executive on your behalf.

    For more information email Campaigns (The Kennel Club).

    I have already done this- written to my MP

    One of the things that will affect my dogs (if I am reading the rules correctly) is that you are not allowed to take pet food. Since one of my dogs is elderly and she is on a very restricted diet to prevent colitis I use a particular (non POM) food.
    My other dog is wheat intolerant so again- use particular dried food. None of those are available in ROI.

    Who, in their right mind travels any distance without pet food? I've been caught in the past with bad weather/ breakdown thankful that I had food for them.

    And who would change a dog's diet when arriving abroad? Another recipe for disaster and more trips to the vet.
    Being polite and pleasant doesn't cost anything!
    -Stash bust:in 2022:337
    Stash bust :2023. 120duvets, 24bags,43dogcoats, 2scrunchies, 10mitts, 6 bootees, 8spec cases, 2 A6notebooks, 59cards, 6 lav bags,36 angels,9 bones,1 blanket, 1 lined bag,3 owls, 88 pyramids = total 420total spend £5.Total for 'Dogs for Good' £546.82

    2024:Sewn:59Doggy ds,52pyramids,18 bags,6spec cases,6lav.bags.
    Knits:6covers,4hats,10mitts,2 bootees.
    Crotchet:61angels, 229cards=453 £158.55profit!!!
    2025 3dduvets
  • vix2000
    vix2000 Posts: 1,129 Forumite
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    Can anyone explain why we are still accepting eu passports into the UK but they are not accepting ours?
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