Euro Carparks overstay fine

Uptown_Boy

D_P_Dance said:

 So the RK needs to respond by either 1. paying (not recommended), 2. fighting this as the RK (recommended -

Uptown boy, did you forget a third option, naming the driver?

No I didn't - I suggest you go and re-read the post from which you've partially quoted what I wrote. (That's the problem with your quoting method rather than using the actual Quote function).

D_P_Dance

IME the quoting system frequently quotes others incorrectly.  I would even go as far as to say that, IMO, it is unfit for purpose 

Redx

Uptown_Boy said:

If the RK has received the Notice To Keeper then it's not yours to pay - it's theirs. So the RK needs to respond by either 1. paying (not recommended), 2. fighting this as the RK (recommended - provides the most ammunition to see this off, especially as they weren't the driver ... if the first appeal doesn't work [it probably won't] then a POPLA appeal should see this off), or 3. responding to the NTK naming you as the driver (giving your name and address) and letting you do battle.

There's nothing stopping you doing all the work for option 2 but it being in the RK's name. And they can only (legally) "go for" the RK if they've complied with the strict requirements of Schedule 4 of POFA2012. I'm not sure if ECP have POFA-compliant NTKs.

If you read the full quote , he gave a number 3 option

Of naming the driver !! It is you that did not read it properly , the partial quote and comment are irrelevant

Uptown_Boy

D_P_Dance said:

IME the quoting system frequently quotes others incorrectly.  I would even go as far as to say that, IMO, it is unfit for purpose 

IME it is more often a PICNIC issue rather than a forum issue.

jellybaby87

Hey folks,

So if the keeper went to name the driver but the letter gives zero details on how to actually do this, other than telling them they need to do this, Is it still POFA compliant?  the POFA doesn't specifically say, but the keeper has just logged on to the website in a bid to find the option to say it was me and the only options are pay, appeal, contact us or apply for a job.

He clicked the pay bit thinking it might have a section.... it doesnt.
Neither does the appeal bit.

So he sent an appeal, saying that he's trying to provide the name and address of the driver but there isn't anywhere to do so because he wanted the clock stopping (the deadline is the 16th)  and by doing a 'contact us' email, there no certainty they would get it in time and stop the clock and as I've mentioned before he's a very nervous person.

Just curious if anyone else has better insight or has had this before?

nosferatu1001

Yes, of course it is. You've heard of letters? Emails? Carrier pigeon?

Why not appeal and give the drivers name and address there? That's the obvious route...

Le_Kirk

jellybaby87 said:

So If the keeper went to name the driver but the letter gives zero details on how to actually do this, other than telling them they need to do this, Is it still POFA compliant?  the POFA doesn't specifically say, but the keeper has just logged on to the website in a bid to find the option to say it was me and the only options are pay, appeal, contact us or apply for a job.

What letter?  Is there not a tear-off strip on the original NTK?

Coupon-mad

jellybaby87 said:

Hey folks,

So if the keeper went to name the driver but the letter gives zero details on how to actually do this, other than telling them they need to do this, Is it still POFA compliant?  the POFA doesn't specifically say, but the keeper has just logged on to the website in a bid to find the option to say it was me and the only options are pay, appeal, contact us or apply for a job.

He clicked the pay bit thinking it might have a section.... it doesnt.
Neither does the appeal bit.

So he sent an appeal, saying that he's trying to provide the name and address of the driver but there isn't anywhere to do so because he wanted the clock stopping (the deadline is the 16th)  and by doing a 'contact us' email, there no certainty they would get it in time and stop the clock and as I've mentioned before he's a very nervous person.

And of course in the appeal, HE NAMED THE DRIVER AND GAVE THE POSTAL ADDRESS, didn't just say he 'wanted to'?

If he has appealed just saying he WANTED to name the driver then he's going to have to do it again...

Uptown_Boy

Le_Kirk said:

jellybaby87 said:

So If the keeper went to name the driver but the letter gives zero details on how to actually do this, other than telling them they need to do this, Is it still POFA compliant?  the POFA doesn't specifically say, but the keeper has just logged on to the website in a bid to find the option to say it was me and the only options are pay, appeal, contact us or apply for a job.

What letter?  Is there not a tear-off strip on the original NTK?

Well done - that seriously irks me.