PCN at Euro Car parts Crawley for parking on DYL

A_S

Hi 
Received the PCN by Premier Park Ltd on 14/11/2020 
My appeal will be as follows ( please advise if it needs any editing) :
I was not allowed to post links to image so see image attached
thanks 

Re PCN number: xxxxx

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.  Also you have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to give the invitation to keeper in the format prescribed by section 9 (2) (e) of the Act. You cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper. 

As the car was legitimately using double yellow lines (temporarily) as intended by the meaning of those road markings, your reply must show me where you have placed signs next to your 'false double yellows' and how they are purported to communicate a completely different meaning than in the Highway code? There are many exemptions for parking or stopping on such markings - as set out in proper (public highway) enforcement - so how are drivers supposed to learn of these unexpected 'Premier Park special' rules if you just paint two yellow lines?

 

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Fruitcake

That's an old template.

I suggest you read the sticky thread for NEWBIES then send the template in blue text you will find there.

Is the road the car was parked on private?
You should take photos of the site and signage in readiness for a PoPLA appeal.

A_S

hi 
I have looked up the road on West Sussex County Council's website and it shows the road a Class Q which is Non-maintained road (new estates/private lanes)
I will get the photos ready for the PoPLA 
Thanks 


Re PCN number: xxxxx

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require an explanation of the allegation and your evidence. You must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date as well as your images of the vehicle.

Name & Address of Registered keeper 

Coupon-mad

What makes the PPC think a car can't stop on double yellow lines?  Of course it can, there are loads of reasons and exemptions to the meaning of those lines and if they are going to mimic Council lines then they must have the same meaning.

What does the sign say, exactly?

D_P_Dance

CM is correct.  If a red light shows on your dash board, it would be wise to stop immediately.  As a BB holder I am allowed to park on some DYLs   

Complain to your MP, 9 times out of ten these tcikets are scams.

Le_Kirk

There is a thread on here about this same area. I haven't seen it for a couple of weeks but searching might find it.  Some advice was given on that thread.

A_S

Thanks for the replies 
please see sign below 
 There nearest sign on the side of the road where I stopped was about 40metres away and there’s one sign opposite to where I stopped and some other small signs along the road which you can possibly read while driving.  

Fruitcake

That sign looks to be of a forbidding nature to me. No offer to park, so no consideration, no contract can be formed for a motorist to park.

Are there any entrance signs to the site?

D_P_Dance

Read these

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/04/pcm-uk-signage-does-not-create-contract.html

http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t126262.html

https://legalbeagles.info/forums/forum/legal-forums/motoring-parking/ppc-s-parking-charge-notices/1470162-defence-due-against-vcs-pcn/page2

and, if you have not already done so, complain to your MP.

A_S

There are no signs on the entrance, just signs on the side of the warehouse and on lamp poles which you cannot possibly read while driving unless you stop to read which the signs forbid you to do... 

I will look into complaining to my MP tonight

D_P_Dance should I add any of the points suggested in the threads in my first appeal or should I save it for my defence?  

Thanks a lot guys, your help and advice is very much appreciated.  

Le_Kirk

Your first appeal (if you cannot get a landowner cancellation) should be ONLY the blue text found in the NEWBIE sticky, with no additions, deletions or modifications.