Noisey neighbours, friendly advice on what to do.

Getting_greyer

Well if it's excessive noise and you can't get them to stop then you're morally bound to tell potential buyers aren't you? I guess that's the crux of this thread. 

lookstraightahead

Zoe1345 said:

lookstraightahead said:

I can't actually see that you can really do anything then. I moved because of road noise, I think that's what you are going to have to do here. 

We are planning on moving as I stated. But we can't afford to move yet. My OP noted that the reason we are doubting how we tackles this is BECAUSE of the move, and debating whether to kick up a fuss before hand. 

I think this is all going in circles now... Or perhaps it's just my dilerium from the lack of sleep !

So op, as no-one can help anymore with any suggestions, what are you going to do? 

Aranyani

Getting_greyer said:

Well if it's excessive noise and you can't get them to stop then you're morally bound to tell potential buyers aren't you? I guess that's the crux of this thread. 

They won't though I don't expect, and they will get away with it, as most do, and as their sellers did. 

Zoe1345

Aranyani said:

Getting_greyer said:

Well if it's excessive noise and you can't get them to stop then you're morally bound to tell potential buyers aren't you? I guess that's the crux of this thread. 

They won't though I don't expect, and they will get away with it, as most do, and as their sellers did. 

Well as I'm told by a number of people on the thread. I may be the problem and this is normal noise. So if that's the case, why should I jeopardise a sale and loose money for something that's apparently "part of living in a terrace". 

Zoe1345

lookstraightahead said:

Zoe1345 said:

lookstraightahead said:

I can't actually see that you can really do anything then. I moved because of road noise, I think that's what you are going to have to do here. 

We are planning on moving as I stated. But we can't afford to move yet. My OP noted that the reason we are doubting how we tackles this is BECAUSE of the move, and debating whether to kick up a fuss before hand. 

I think this is all going in circles now... Or perhaps it's just my dilerium from the lack of sleep !

So op, as no-one can help anymore with any suggestions, what are you going to do? 

Not certain yet. I'm going to attempt another chat today. See if we can get them to take a look at their shower door at least to stop it slamming, and mention the shouting from last night too - again. I might discuss whether they've considered re carpeting their stairs. I need to mull over a long-term solution. I've been looking at some new headphones for possible white noise or audio books or something (husband doesn't want to hear it apparently). If anyone has any good sleeping headphones to suggest, fire away! I may even, I thought last night, try and change my hours at work, so I can start a bit later in the AM, to buy myself a couple of extra hours each night/morning. We aren't putting in any form of formal complaints. And I maintain that I will do all I can not to entirely fall out with the neighbours. I like the idea.aomeonenput forward about talking directly to the teens about it. 

As many people seem to think this is normal behaviour it seems, to be expected with a terrace and that we should essentially suck it up, as also think like me that it sounds excessive... So going by consensus I'm not sure we will be putting it on the PIF. By those attitudes, half the people here wouldn't expect to be told, or shouldn't expect to be told, of this themselves if it's "normal" behaviour - normal behaviour doesn't go on a PIF, as we can't be expected to anticipate every small thing that might !!!!!! an owner. And therefore half the people wouldn't / shouldn't be annoyed if they ended up in the same situation as us either. Let's hope we sell to someone like those guys eh? It does irk me morally, but perhaps that's because I'm not a d**k as general rule. If a buyer asks about noise directly, as in hindsight we should have and will do in the future, we WILL CERTAINLY tell them that we've had to talk to them a number of times about noise, and you can hear them moving around, "the everyday sounds of living in a terrace". But I think we're going to have to play it by ear (ha!) when we sell quite frankly. And we will likely talk it over with our conveyancer at that time for advice. 

For now, it's stollen naps on the sofa in the evening. And the dream of a detached house in a year or so I guess! 

warby68

I don't think the consensus about 'sucking it up' is because its normal behaviour and part and parcel of attached living. Its normal behaviour done very inconsiderately from your description.
Its because people who have been asked to be more considerate and then aren't are unlikely to change. 
Its unfortunate that you seem to have no flexibility for 2 of your 3 bedrooms as they have been given over to a home business but something does have to give when serious sleep deprivation is a problem. That's why you've been pushed on this point.
My hope would be that come Spring, more 'normal' life returns and their lifestyles change sufficiently to reduce the problem. Fingers crossed anyway. 

Zoe1345

warby68 said:

I don't think the consensus about 'sucking it up' is because its normal behaviour and part and parcel of attached living. Its normal behaviour done very inconsiderately from your description.
Its because people who have been asked to be more considerate and then aren't are unlikely to change. 
Its unfortunate that you seem to have no flexibility for 2 of your 3 bedrooms as they have been given over to a home business but something does have to give when serious sleep deprivation is a problem. That's why you've been pushed on this point.
My hope would be that come Spring, more 'normal' life returns and their lifestyles change sufficiently to reduce the problem. Fingers crossed anyway. 

I don't know, some certainly seem to see it that way - note the "perhaps their not the problem" comment further up. I agree, normal behaviour inconsiderately executed. 
I'm hoping the same about spring too! 
Indeed something surely has to give (currently my health and sanity!), and it is unfortunate that due to the layout of the house and that we also cannot make any sacrifices with the home business, we are stuck with only 1 room that is occupiable for sleep. We have toyed with the idea of getting an insulated outdoor office - but the costs involved are very large for what hopefully will only be a year, and not the sort of money we can just throw around willy-nilly.  
Perhaps in a years time I'll come back with a happy tale of a new beautiful home, and a happy buyer of this home. Fingers crossed! 

mimi1234

OP - I can sympathise.  We have neighbours similiar to yours.  The door slamming is horrendous, it's so loud it's like bloody torture, all day and night as well.   The sound proofing in this house is awful and I have lost so much sleep from the noise at night.  I would move in a heartbeat but it's Mum's house and she won't move from here!  I had to move back to care for her as she is quite old and frail now.

I have had to use earphones but even then the noise comes through.  

I hope you are able to get a happy ending and have considerate neighbours if and when you move.  

Zoe1345

mimi1234 said:

OP - I can sympathise.  We have neighbours similiar to yours.  The door slamming is horrendous, it's so loud it's like bloody torture, all day and night as well.   The sound proofing in this house is awful and I have lost so much sleep from the noise at night.  I would move in a heartbeat but it's Mum's house and she won't move from here!  I had to move back to care for her as she is quite old and frail now.

I have had to use earphones but even then the noise comes through.  

I hope you are able to get a happy ending and have considerate neighbours if and when you move.  

Sorry to hear you're experiencing the same mimi1234. Perhaps we should turn this thread into a support group instead for those with noisy neighbour woes and no easy out?! 

hopeitwill

Zoe1345 said:

mimi1234 said:

OP - I can sympathise.  We have neighbours similiar to yours.  The door slamming is horrendous, it's so loud it's like bloody torture, all day and night as well.   The sound proofing in this house is awful and I have lost so much sleep from the noise at night.  I would move in a heartbeat but it's Mum's house and she won't move from here!  I had to move back to care for her as she is quite old and frail now.

I have had to use earphones but even then the noise comes through.  

I hope you are able to get a happy ending and have considerate neighbours if and when you move.  

Sorry to hear you're experiencing the same mimi1234. Perhaps we should turn this thread into a support group instead for those with noisy neighbour woes and no easy out?! 

I would join that gladly.

One of our neighbour's children is profusely throwing tennis balls on the wall for the last week, this just started. They do it more when I bang on the wall for them to stop.

Maybe a letter would help?