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  • AdrianC said:
    Kim_kim said:
    roddydogs said:
    Plus TPWS reveals most punctures much earlier than of old.
    What does TPWS mean? 
    Tyre Pressure Warning System. More usually TPMS, M-for-Monitoring.

    It puts a light up on the dash if one or more tyres are below pressure. Legal requirement on all new cars from 2014, and MOT testable on all post-2012 cars with it fitted.
    Kim_kim said:
    Kim_kim said:
    My new car doesn’t come with a spare tyre. It’s got got an aerosol - ????
    it’s a Suzuki Vitara. 
    Yes, that's correct. I had the same car which also came with the aerosol. Why would you go to the expense of buying a spare wheel and having to change the wheel if something happened.
    I can’t comprehend how an aerosol works.
    Any puncture I’ve ever had, it was flat as a pancake, how is an aerosol going to sort that? 
    The aerosol doesn't just contain "inflation". It mostly contains goop. You spray the contents of the aerosol in, then inflate with a compressor (also provided). Then you drive. The goop distributes itself around the tyre, "finds", and plugs the hole.
    Is the tyre knackered? Yes.
    Was the tyre almost certainly knackered anyway? Yes, if you've driven on it flat, even to just get to somewhere safe.
    Does it work on every flat? No. It works when you've picked up some road debris - a screw, nail, something like that. It doesn't work if you've ripped the sidewall out on a kerb or bent the wheel on a pothole.

    Is it as good as a spare? No. But nor is a spacesaver (50mph max, 50 mile max).
    How often do you need to change a flat tyre roadside, anyway...? I think the last time I needed to was close on 15 years and probably a quarter of a million miles ago.

    How do they actually test the TPMS during MOT;...is a just a ‘monitoring system’ check or do they deflate each tyre a bit?


  • AdrianC
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    edited 24 November 2020 at 10:35AM
    AdrianC said:
    Kim_kim said:
    What does TPWS mean? 
    Tyre Pressure Warning System. More usually TPMS, M-for-Monitoring.

    It puts a light up on the dash if one or more tyres are below pressure. Legal requirement on all new cars from 2014, and MOT testable on all post-2012 cars with it fitted.

    How do they actually test the TPMS during MOT;...is a just a ‘monitoring system’ check or do they deflate each tyre a bit

    As with so many things, does the self-test play nicely when the ignition's turned on?

    "Tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS)

    The inspection of the tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) is for M1 vehicles first used on or after 1 January 2012.

    The TPMS warning lamp (see diagram 3) can operate in many ways depending on the vehicle type. You must only reject vehicles if it’s clear that the lamp indicates a system malfunction and not simply indicating that one or more of the tyre pressures is low.

    Diagram 3. Example of a TPMS warning lamp

    Reasons for Rejection - 5.2.3(h) Tyre pressure monitoring system malfunctioning or obviously not working - Major"

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/5-axles-wheels-tyres-and-suspension#section-5-2-3


  • neilmcl
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    Kim_kim said:
    roddydogs said:
    Plus TPWS reveals most punctures much earlier than of old.
    What does TPWS mean? 
    Nothing in this regard. He means TPMS (Tyre Pressure Monitoring System).
  • Kim_kim
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    AdrianC said:
    Kim_kim said:
    I put air in my tyres for the first time ever recently.
    I didn’t know how you knew when you’d put enough in, so I left the car running & filled the tyre & then eventually the dash showed enough was in it :-) 
    Kim, I don't want to sound patronising here, but this is basics. This has been part of the driving test since 2003...

    You should be checking your tyre pressures (as well as the tread, and the lights, and the fluid levels) regularly - ideally weekly.  There's going to be a prominent sticker on the car to tell you what they should be. Do you have a friend who can show you want to do?
    I get my car serviced, and I do ask a male friend to check my tyres every now and then.  
  • AdrianC
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    Kim_kim said:
    AdrianC said:
    Kim_kim said:
    I put air in my tyres for the first time ever recently.
    I didn’t know how you knew when you’d put enough in, so I left the car running & filled the tyre & then eventually the dash showed enough was in it :-) 
    Kim, I don't want to sound patronising here, but this is basics. This has been part of the driving test since 2003...

    You should be checking your tyre pressures (as well as the tread, and the lights, and the fluid levels) regularly - ideally weekly.  There's going to be a prominent sticker on the car to tell you what they should be. Do you have a friend who can show you want to do?
    I get my car serviced, and I do ask a male friend to check my tyres every now and then.  
    Get your friend to show you how to do it for yourself.
    It's not difficult, and it certainly doesn't require a particular set of underwear contents.
  • Kim_kim said:
    roddydogs said:
    Plus TPWS reveals most punctures much earlier than of old.
    What does TPWS mean? 
    Possibly in tended to write TPMS (Tyre pressure monitoring system)?
    Rather than Train Protection Warning System (Yes, I did a search for that).

  • roddydogs
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    Do keep up, I corrected my mistake ages ago, in any case people knew what I meant.
  • photome
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    Kim_kim said:
    AdrianC said:
    Kim_kim said:
    I put air in my tyres for the first time ever recently.
    I didn’t know how you knew when you’d put enough in, so I left the car running & filled the tyre & then eventually the dash showed enough was in it :-) 
    Kim, I don't want to sound patronising here, but this is basics. This has been part of the driving test since 2003...

    You should be checking your tyre pressures (as well as the tread, and the lights, and the fluid levels) regularly - ideally weekly.  There's going to be a prominent sticker on the car to tell you what they should be. Do you have a friend who can show you want to do?
    I get my car serviced, and I do ask a male friend to check my tyres every now and then.  
    It really is something you should do, a simple gauge like this one  for £10 will also measure tread depth, others are available

    https://www.halfords.com/tools/garage-equipment/tyre-inflators-and-pressure-gauges/halfords-digital-tyre-pressure/tread-gauge-239116.html?istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istFeedId=367c5610-f937-4c81-8609-f84582324cd6&istItemId=xxtwxl&istBid=t&_$ja=tsid:94971|cid:865695754|agid:42483194823|tid:pla-328759477150|crid:203186037816|nw:g|rnd:2808064259828218002|dvc:c|adp:|mt:|loc:1006964&gclid=CjwKCAiAnvj9BRA4EiwAuUMDfxN1FNy0Xh_5Cggo5GHOBhn8SQ-wB2_9N9GQN0aqyAdVTmhAyutd4hoC9sIQAvD_BwE
  • AdrianC
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    edited 26 November 2020 at 8:59AM
    photome said:
    Kim_kim said:
    AdrianC said:
    Kim_kim said:
    I put air in my tyres for the first time ever recently.
    I didn’t know how you knew when you’d put enough in, so I left the car running & filled the tyre & then eventually the dash showed enough was in it :-) 
    Kim, I don't want to sound patronising here, but this is basics. This has been part of the driving test since 2003...

    You should be checking your tyre pressures (as well as the tread, and the lights, and the fluid levels) regularly - ideally weekly.  There's going to be a prominent sticker on the car to tell you what they should be. Do you have a friend who can show you want to do?
    I get my car serviced, and I do ask a male friend to check my tyres every now and then.  
    It really is something you should do, a simple gauge like this one  for £10 will also measure tread depth, others are available

    https://www.halfords.com/tools/garage-equipment/tyre-inflators-and-pressure-gauges/halfords-digital-tyre-pressure/tread-gauge-239116.html
    Trimmed link.
    But even shoving a coin in the machine at the petrol station will do the job...
  • roddydogs
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    Or use Sainsburys where it free., but loads of people, perhaps old and disabled are not able to do tyres., 
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