Is a disengaged clutch the same as being in neutral?

Jonathan_Powell

Oh, and by the way, please read the initial OP before people start cursing and throwing insults. Something that is all too typical of this forum. It's admittedly a bad driving habit so thanks for pointing that out, that's what I originally asked.

Furthermore, during my driving lessons I was taught to get the car moving first before using the accelerator. Quick internet search and I now know that's wrong. 

Scrapit

Jonathan_Powell said:

Scrapit said:

Jonathan_Powell said:

Simply wrong. Especially if you are not on a steep hill, the car is kept in place with the clutch. I only potentially roll back if on a very steep hill. 

Absolute codswallop. You clearly mean you dont roll back that much at best.

Kept in place / don't roll back. What's the difference? 

That much. You dont roll back that much. Which is too much. You do not have control of the vehicle for the whole time its primary influence is gravity. You dont have enough feet, hence why they give you a brake to be operated by your hand, snazzily named "the handbrake".

Scrapit

I suspect many, many other sources are available but here's the first I found:
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/how-to/how-to-do-a-hill-start-guide/

AdrianC

Jonathan_Powell said:

Furthermore, during my driving lessons I was taught to get the car moving first before using the accelerator.

Memory can be a very funny thing across the span of a decade.

Scrapit

I'm intrigued how a clutch that is "fully down" holds any position or even makes progress. The op is very confused about driving considering they used the phrase " you obviously don't know how to drive a manual". Hopefully they learn from this.

Jonathan_Powell

Scrapit said:

I'm intrigued how a clutch that is "fully down" holds any position or even makes progress. The op is very confused about driving considering they used the phrase " you obviously don't know how to drive a manual". Hopefully they learn from this.

Didn't say it did. Initial question was around if holding the clutch down was bad. Then someone mentioned something about having enough feet. Then it turned into a discussion around whether using just the clutch and no brake can hold the car on an incline. Probably best if the thread is closed as I got my answer to my actual question; holding the clutch is not the same as the car being in neutral and does cause it to wear faster. 

Scrapit

Jonathan_Powell said:

Scrapit said:

I'm intrigued how a clutch that is "fully down" holds any position or even makes progress. The op is very confused about driving considering they used the phrase " you obviously don't know how to drive a manual". Hopefully they learn from this.

Didn't say it did. Initial question was around if holding the clutch down was bad. Then someone mentioned something about having enough feet. Then it turned into a discussion around whether using just the clutch and no brake can hold the car on an incline. Probably best if the thread is closed as I got my answer to my actual question; holding the clutch is not the same as the car being in neutral and does cause it to wear faster. 

I'm quoting from your posts, I didnt quote them using the forum cos its pants and a PITA but I made sure it was correct.