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Replacing cast iron radiators with new ones

Hi everyone,

We are in the midst of selling our flat. It has two cast iron radiators that we would like to take to our new property. We were thinking of taking them and replacing them with standard white radiators. There was no mention of the cast iron radiators in the details of the property or that they were part of the sale, so are we in our right to take them and replace them with new ones or should we leave them in for the buyer?

Many thanks!

Littlemiss19
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  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    General rule is that anything that is actually fixed to the property is part of the fixtures and fittings, so should stay unless listed otherwise on the form that's part of the standard conveyance package.

    Have you had an offer yet? If not, go for it and just get them changed now.
    If you have, then make sure you tell the buyers. And don't be surprised if they're hacked off.

    Wouldn't it just make more sense to buy new ones of the appropriate size for the new property?
  • Good grief! Those are the rads your buyers saw and those are the rads they are expecting.
    Having said that they may be grateful to you as new modern rads are likely to be far mor heat efficient !
    Ask them.
  • Sandtree
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    Where are you in the sales process? If you are past exchange its really too late though you could have a conversation but if I were the buyer I’d want a reduction to reflect the loss even if I was intending to replace them as soon as I got in.

    If you are before offer then its simpler to do but remove them now so views are done with whats being sold... if they are in the photos being used they’d ideally be removed from future ads etc
  • AdrianC
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    Having said that they may be grateful to you as new modern rads are likely to be far mor heat efficient !
    Ironically, that's actually unlikely... Cast-iron rads are very, very good - but pressed steel panel ones are cheap.
  • AdrianC said:
    Having said that they may be grateful to you as new modern rads are likely to be far mor heat efficient !
    Ironically, that's actually unlikely... Cast-iron rads are very, very good - but pressed steel panel ones are cheap.
    I was thinking more that they are unlikely to have 'wings' for convecting.
  • macman
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    edited 19 November 2020 at 8:37PM
    No you can't, they are permanent fixtures, and there were presumably pictures of them in the EA's listing?
    Repo cast iron rads are readily available, and it's unlikely that they would be an exact fit for your new property anyway.
    And, before you ask, nor can you remove the designer kitchen and replace it with a B&Q special...

    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • AdrianC
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    edited 19 November 2020 at 8:44PM
    AdrianC said:
    Having said that they may be grateful to you as new modern rads are likely to be far mor heat efficient !
    Ironically, that's actually unlikely... Cast-iron rads are very, very good - but pressed steel panel ones are cheap.
    I was thinking more that they are unlikely to have 'wings' for convecting.
    The wings are a bodge-around to try and get some heat out of the flat steel.

    More surface area - more convection. Look at the surface area of a flat panel rad compared to...

  • macman
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    The 'traditional features' could be the reason they are buying the property!
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • MalMonroe
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    Does that mean you actually have a buyer?  I'd ask them. It's only polite to do so. I once bought a property that had a lovely built in oven and hob - I thought! When I actually moved in the vendors had taken the oven but not the hob. Who does that? It was all built in and I had assumed it would all be staying, not just half of it.

    It doesn't hurt just to ask people. If you don't have a buyer yet, mention it to them when you do. At least you aren't intending to leave a big gap in the wall, which is what happened to me with that bloomin' built in oven!

    I really wouldn't mind if it I was your buyer and you wanted to remove the cast iron radiators but you replaced them with new ones that work. Just mention it - if they really want to buy it won't put them off.
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  • Leave the existing stuff, make sure of the sale, don;t put off buyer.

    If you really want those behemoths from the past then buy "new" but "old" ones for your new place. e.g.

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