Colleague discount - “You must not buy goods for resale”

stragglebod

Anteater23 said:

cymruchris said:

Anteater23 said:

cymruchris said:

Having worked in a major company's internal fraud department - I can assure you that buying something that you sell two years later is no issue at all. The reason for the rule - is to stop people buying things cheaply, and then immediately putting them on ebay for a profit. We used to uncover quite a network of colleagues that would buy the big ticket sale items the moment they were reduced, with their additional staff discount, and then onto ebay within the hour. It's to prevent this kind of activity that eats into a company profits. Yes the company wants to be generous and give a discount - but it doesn't want it to be abused. So after 2 years of buying a single iPad - and no longer working for them, nobody is going to come knocking on your door. 

Thanks for your comment. I have sent the company a message and they told me I can “never” resell anything I buy. But I looked at the T&C and it doesn’t say that it says “you must not buy goods for resale”. I’m not trying to twist those words but imo that means something different - it indicates that your purchase intention was to resell.

They wouldn't be able to stand up in court and say to a judge- 'this ex-employee who bought a single item two years ago has broken our 'you can't sell it ever' rule and we want them jailed'. It would be laughed out of court (realistically it wouldn't get there in the first place).

Go ahead and sell it - there'll be no repercussions from your ex-employer (with few exceptions - such as if the iPad was in fact stolen - that also happened a lot - special personal 100 percent staff discount - got a few of those in my time and up in front of a judge!)

Thanks again. They have got back to and say that never can I resell even if used and 2 years old. The problem (i.e. the change of circumstances I had) is that my iPad had a manufacture fault and so I will probably be entitled to a replacement or partial refund? If I were entitled to sell my iPad then I would use the going price for my iPad on eBay as a means of asking for a fair refund. However if they say I’m not entitled to sell my iPad then they could be awkward and give me a terrible refund offer that could leave me £200-300 out of pocket just to buy a used exact replacement for my iPad on eBay. 

I really hope they are reasonable with me or can supply a replacement (you can’t buy it in the shop anymore as an older model)

It was a bad idea to ask them, because what other response could they give you other than repeat the letter of the agreement?

eddddy

Anteater23 said:
.... If I were entitled to sell my iPad then I would use the going price for my iPad on eBay as a means of asking for a fair refund. However if they say I’m not entitled to sell my iPad then they could be awkward and give me a terrible refund offer that could leave me £200-300 out of pocket just to buy a used exact replacement for my iPad on eBay. 

I really hope they are reasonable with me or can supply a replacement (you can’t buy it in the shop anymore as an older model)

It sounds like you're saying that you want to auction your broken iPad on ebay, in order to decide how much 'refund' to ask for from your ex-employer. What is the calculation that you're planning to do?

If you're able to sell the broken iPad for, say, £50, that would mean your ex-employer could legitimately reduce the 'refund' they pay you by £50. (You'd be better off saying that since the iPad is broken, it's worthless.)

davidmcn

stragglebod said:

Anteater23 said:

cymruchris said:

Anteater23 said:

cymruchris said:

Having worked in a major company's internal fraud department - I can assure you that buying something that you sell two years later is no issue at all. The reason for the rule - is to stop people buying things cheaply, and then immediately putting them on ebay for a profit. We used to uncover quite a network of colleagues that would buy the big ticket sale items the moment they were reduced, with their additional staff discount, and then onto ebay within the hour. It's to prevent this kind of activity that eats into a company profits. Yes the company wants to be generous and give a discount - but it doesn't want it to be abused. So after 2 years of buying a single iPad - and no longer working for them, nobody is going to come knocking on your door. 

Thanks for your comment. I have sent the company a message and they told me I can “never” resell anything I buy. But I looked at the T&C and it doesn’t say that it says “you must not buy goods for resale”. I’m not trying to twist those words but imo that means something different - it indicates that your purchase intention was to resell.

They wouldn't be able to stand up in court and say to a judge- 'this ex-employee who bought a single item two years ago has broken our 'you can't sell it ever' rule and we want them jailed'. It would be laughed out of court (realistically it wouldn't get there in the first place).

Go ahead and sell it - there'll be no repercussions from your ex-employer (with few exceptions - such as if the iPad was in fact stolen - that also happened a lot - special personal 100 percent staff discount - got a few of those in my time and up in front of a judge!)

Thanks again. They have got back to and say that never can I resell even if used and 2 years old. The problem (i.e. the change of circumstances I had) is that my iPad had a manufacture fault and so I will probably be entitled to a replacement or partial refund? If I were entitled to sell my iPad then I would use the going price for my iPad on eBay as a means of asking for a fair refund. However if they say I’m not entitled to sell my iPad then they could be awkward and give me a terrible refund offer that could leave me £200-300 out of pocket just to buy a used exact replacement for my iPad on eBay. 

I really hope they are reasonable with me or can supply a replacement (you can’t buy it in the shop anymore as an older model)

It was a bad idea to ask them, because what other response could they give you other than repeat the letter of the agreement?

Yes, the problem appears to be (a) the OP has asked the question, and (b) the person who has answered also doesn't understand the purpose of the rule. Nothing is actually going to happen if they sell it on, if that obviously wasn't the original purpose of the purchase. 

Pollycat

I think the OP is massively over-thinking this.

Aylesbury_Duck

Pollycat said:

I think the OP is massively over-thinking this.

I think eddddy is right, OP is tying themselves in knots trying to get their faulty ipad situation with Argos resolved.  They aren't happy with the consensus on its value.

bradders1983

How would they even know you have sold it? Come on now.

JJ_Egan

No Consumer Law say OP can not sell on is their ?

Spank

I doubt it, but if caught (scalping, when the machine was new), I wouldn't be surprised if they were fired. As the OP no longer works fir Argos it's moot.

photome

Of course you can sell it , former employer will be none the wiser .

how much are you expecting to sell your broken iPad for, assuming Argos don’t take it back

Grumpy_chap

OP wants £420 for the iPAD they only paid £430 nearly year and half ago