Water Pipes

Jeepers_Creepers

So, there is a main stopcock OUTSIDE your land and this serves JUST your house? Cool - that's the WB's responsibility.

And then there's ANOTHER stopcock INSIDE your boundary at that hedge? Cool - that's handy to have in an emergency, tho' most folk don't. 

Ok, is there ALSO a mains stopcock INSIDE the HOUSE? Hopefully 'yes', in which case can you post a pic of it please?

And you replaced the 'hedge' stopcock? (You did this by presumably shutting off the 'road' (WB's) stopcock?)

What would have been really useful to know is what the flow rate was like at your hedge stopcock when you replaced it. To be frank, if YOU want to investigate where the problem lies, this is the best way to do it. Can you access this stopcock again and disconnect it from the pipe supply coming from outside your boundary? If you can, then aim it in to a bucket and open the WB's stopcock FULL for 10 seconds. Measure how many litres come out in this time.*

Then just 'see' how solid the flow is - does it gush?! What happens if someone sticks their thumb over the flowing pipe end - is it powerful? Almost or actually impossible to stop the flow?

There's your answer - what is the flow at your hedge stopcock like compared to your kitchen cold tap inside your house? And at your garden tap?

* 'Times' the number of litres x 6 to get 'litres per minute'. Then repeat this for your kitchen cold tap - bucket under, open fully for 10 seconds - and garden tap.

Report back please. :-)

greyteam1959

I presume that the OP has tried the most simple thing of all ??
Is the main stop valve on the street turned fully on ??

diz79

Here are the pictures sorry for delay....Ive only dug by the hedge as this is where the problem was and where the stop !!!!!! originally broke, I replaced the old brass one with plastic as well as the old black thinner plastic pipe with the bigger blue one. You

can see some of the old one in there as well.

Im tempted to dig further aling back towards the hedge but we may have a problem as get closer to the hedge, otherwise I will pull up the floorboards in the house to see. Ill attach more pics in a second section so not to confuse things and also so you can see the difficulty we might have.

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diz79

Facing away from the tap moving towards the house after the slabs etc. I hope its clear.

Jeepers_Creepers

Thanks for the photos. I find therm a bit confusing, tho', and I don't know - for example - which way the pipes go.

This one to start with: 

The pipe that disappears in to the earth at the top - where's that heading? And at the bottom, the blue pipe becomes black pipe - where does the black pipe go?

Jeepers_Creepers

And in this one:

This must be your new blue pipe leading to your (intended) garden tap?

What's the water flow rate out of this?

Jeepers_Creepers

Really, where you fitted the new stopcock (make it one word and you don't get !-marks), shut that off, open the house end of the fitting, aim that into a bucket, and run it FULL ON for 10 seconds.

If you don't find out what the flow rate is at this closest-to-the-street-mains-pipe point, there's no point looking further. 

diz79

These are all facing the hedge leading out of the garden to the road. There is just this one ditch I dug. This is the stopcock I had to change.

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diz79

We had to get the connector to fit the samller black pipe u can see at the bottom on this pic this is the conector you can just see on the last pic I put up). We are now facing towards the house. It then goes into the old brass conector, again the black pipe going up we got another conector to fit the new blue pipe which goes just to the outside tap, the other side at the bottom brass conector did continue to be a small black pipe but because ive left it mud has fallen on it, this continues towardsthe house but I havent dug further yet. As it might be difficult because of the concrete steps and path maybe?

This next pic is the blue pipe above going to the tap you can also see the hose conected, towards the house not the hedge coming from the hole.

This pic gives a view of the whole piping from the hedge up to the blue pipe of the tap leaving the hole.

Another shot of the pipe leaving the hole lookingtowards the house with the hose attached.

More pics goin towards the house the steps ahead of the whole past these slabs in front.

Last pic is obviously towards the house to the left of the steps

As you can see we will have to dig up the ground a fair bit to get to all the piping, but at the weekend we are going to look from the kitchen and lift up some boards. I hope this helps, im quite tired so spelling might be off.

Many thanks

Jeepers_Creepers

You aren't currently supplying your hose via a hose? 

Anyhoo, I still maintain you need to check the flow rate (10 seconds at full chat) at the 'house' end of that new stopcock you fitted. If it's less than, ooh, 20lpm there, you'll either need to sort out the pipe going to the road, or else compensate by fitting new 'blue' pipe all the way in to your house.

Yes, it's disruptive. Obviously you try and avoid laid paving, steps, etc.