replacing hob and oven in the most fuss-free non-DIY way? quick questions?

me1000uk

fenwick458 said:

me1000uk said:

I'm facing another potential issue in that the companies I'm calling are resistant to wanting to provide installation as they say the 32A supply with both oven+hob connected to the same cooker switch is against manufacturer policy and recommendations.

I often come up against this, people quoting the manufacturers "recommendations" like they are the only rule that matters.
why do you need a supply bigger that  32A for an oven and a hob?? If I want to connect a 7kw hob and a 4kw oven, using the diversity calculation it's possible to connect these using only 2.5mm cable
most houses have a 6mm cable, so I can't see the problem. 

The issue probably also is related to warranty too. I've emailed a couple of manufacturers to be proactive from my side but hoping perhaps it's not a showstopper

Homer_home

me1000uk said:

Homer_home said:

FreeBear said:

Homer_home said: If you open the oven door you will see screws down the side , remove these and you can pull the oven out and you will able to measure the hob cutout.

Cut outs for electric hobs are all pretty much similar sizes for a like for like hob. If you are real lucky, the oven may be fitted with a 13A plug (so that would be dead easy to change).

I had one of those "slow heating hot plate" type hobs when I refitted my kitchen - Lasted less than a week before I replaced it with an induction hob. Loving the induction (as good as gas for most things), but did have to bung out on new pans.

When you go shopping for a new hob, do have a look at induction, especially if you have small children around.

Correct but similar sizes is no good for the op she needs to know for sure and in this case her current cutout is too small......

Personally I still think a mate who is handy on the tools is a better option (and much cheaper too)

Thanks (I'm a 'he' btw but no issues). The problem I face is that it's on a top floor flat so to dispose of and install is probably worth getting the supplier to do that. I'm sure an electrician or someone will be cheaper but they may not fancy getting rid of 50kg worth of appliance up a few sets of stairs!

I'm facing another potential issue in that the companies I'm calling are resistant to wanting to provide installation as they say the 32A supply with both oven+hob connected to the same cooker switch is against manufacturer policy and recommendations.
According to google the load is not too much an issue as they won't be all going full pelt at the same time. Just wondering if anyone has come across this issue or knows what brands allow this type of connection? A rewiring isn't really an option unless there's a straightforward electrical solution.
Any tips appreciated and thanks to everyone for the response.

My apologies about calling you a she

An oven doesn't weigh 50kg it's around 25kg (the weight of a bag of cement) you are more than capable of carrying this down a few flights of stairs

An electrician wouldn't dispose of the old appliances for you anyway he would laugh at you if he asked you to do this as he would need a waste licence to do so 

My advice get the oven and hob delivered , either fit them yourself , get a mate in or pay a spark , hump the appliances to your car take them to the tip or advertise them on gumtree for free as long as they are collected (that way no humping them downstairs - win win)

me1000uk

Homer_home said:

me1000uk said:

Homer_home said:

FreeBear said:

Homer_home said: If you open the oven door you will see screws down the side , remove these and you can pull the oven out and you will able to measure the hob cutout.

Cut outs for electric hobs are all pretty much similar sizes for a like for like hob. If you are real lucky, the oven may be fitted with a 13A plug (so that would be dead easy to change).

I had one of those "slow heating hot plate" type hobs when I refitted my kitchen - Lasted less than a week before I replaced it with an induction hob. Loving the induction (as good as gas for most things), but did have to bung out on new pans.

When you go shopping for a new hob, do have a look at induction, especially if you have small children around.

Correct but similar sizes is no good for the op she needs to know for sure and in this case her current cutout is too small......

Personally I still think a mate who is handy on the tools is a better option (and much cheaper too)

Thanks (I'm a 'he' btw but no issues). The problem I face is that it's on a top floor flat so to dispose of and install is probably worth getting the supplier to do that. I'm sure an electrician or someone will be cheaper but they may not fancy getting rid of 50kg worth of appliance up a few sets of stairs!

I'm facing another potential issue in that the companies I'm calling are resistant to wanting to provide installation as they say the 32A supply with both oven+hob connected to the same cooker switch is against manufacturer policy and recommendations.
According to google the load is not too much an issue as they won't be all going full pelt at the same time. Just wondering if anyone has come across this issue or knows what brands allow this type of connection? A rewiring isn't really an option unless there's a straightforward electrical solution.
Any tips appreciated and thanks to everyone for the response.

My apologies about calling you a she

An oven doesn't weigh 50kg it's around 25kg (the weight of a bag of cement) you are more than capable of carrying this down a few flights of stairs

An electrician wouldn't dispose of the old appliances for you anyway he would laugh at you if he asked you to do this as he would need a waste licence to do so 

My advice get the oven and hob delivered , either fit them yourself , get a mate in or pay a spark , hump the appliances to your car take them to the tip or advertise them on gumtree for free as long as they are collected (that way no humping them downstairs - win win)

Thanks for the response. I've enquired with local electricians and there is a solution for it by adding another outlet for the oven which doesn't require too much complexity apparently. That was my main concern.
As for your advice, once the appliance is disconnected I'll find a local charity or something to collect the device as they tend to have teams that do this (if not pay the 20 odd quid recycling fee from the appliance seller). 
Becoming an amateur electrician or lugging something the size of an oven down 3 flights of stairs and fitting in my small car without causing damage to myself or property isn't very feasible for me at the moment!

southcoastrgi

Leave the hob & oven outside it will be gone by the time you get back upstairs 

Homer_home

me1000uk said:

Homer_home said:

me1000uk said:

Homer_home said:

FreeBear said:

Homer_home said: If you open the oven door you will see screws down the side , remove these and you can pull the oven out and you will able to measure the hob cutout.

Cut outs for electric hobs are all pretty much similar sizes for a like for like hob. If you are real lucky, the oven may be fitted with a 13A plug (so that would be dead easy to change).

I had one of those "slow heating hot plate" type hobs when I refitted my kitchen - Lasted less than a week before I replaced it with an induction hob. Loving the induction (as good as gas for most things), but did have to bung out on new pans.

When you go shopping for a new hob, do have a look at induction, especially if you have small children around.

Correct but similar sizes is no good for the op she needs to know for sure and in this case her current cutout is too small......

Personally I still think a mate who is handy on the tools is a better option (and much cheaper too)

Thanks (I'm a 'he' btw but no issues). The problem I face is that it's on a top floor flat so to dispose of and install is probably worth getting the supplier to do that. I'm sure an electrician or someone will be cheaper but they may not fancy getting rid of 50kg worth of appliance up a few sets of stairs!

I'm facing another potential issue in that the companies I'm calling are resistant to wanting to provide installation as they say the 32A supply with both oven+hob connected to the same cooker switch is against manufacturer policy and recommendations.
According to google the load is not too much an issue as they won't be all going full pelt at the same time. Just wondering if anyone has come across this issue or knows what brands allow this type of connection? A rewiring isn't really an option unless there's a straightforward electrical solution.
Any tips appreciated and thanks to everyone for the response.

My apologies about calling you a she

An oven doesn't weigh 50kg it's around 25kg (the weight of a bag of cement) you are more than capable of carrying this down a few flights of stairs

An electrician wouldn't dispose of the old appliances for you anyway he would laugh at you if he asked you to do this as he would need a waste licence to do so 

My advice get the oven and hob delivered , either fit them yourself , get a mate in or pay a spark , hump the appliances to your car take them to the tip or advertise them on gumtree for free as long as they are collected (that way no humping them downstairs - win win)

Thanks for the response. I've enquired with local electricians and there is a solution for it by adding another outlet for the oven which doesn't require too much complexity apparently. That was my main concern.
As for your advice, once the appliance is disconnected I'll find a local charity or something to collect the device as they tend to have teams that do this (if not pay the 20 odd quid recycling fee from the appliance seller). 
Becoming an amateur electrician or lugging something the size of an oven down 3 flights of stairs and fitting in my small car without causing damage to myself or property isn't very feasible for me at the moment!

Don't forget to stick it on gumtree (in the free to a good home section) you will be inundated with offers to take them off your hands!

Homer_home

southcoastrgi said:

Leave the hob & oven outside it will be gone by the time you get back upstairs 

Did that with a push bike once when I couldn't be bothered to take it to the tip, took 24hrs mind before it was stolen!

Sandtree

southcoastrgi said:

Leave the hob & oven outside it will be gone by the time you get back upstairs 

Depends where you live unfortunately... when we were in our old flat this was certainly the case, anything put outside would be gone by morning. A newly moved in neighbour once commented how efficient the local council was in collecting large items as she’d only paid for the collection that evening... didnt have the heart to tell her.

Where we are these days most things remain untouched but if anything its more likely to be set alight than taken.