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Extending back garden onto unadopted road?

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  • There is no way the neighbours would agree to that. 


  • 25_Years_On
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    This is fine if you want to annoy your neighbours, give your neighbours access to your garden, give passing tea leafs even easier access, reduce the potential and price of future house sales and are looking for a doctor to certify you. Actually beyond all those this is a fine idea.
  • pretamang said:
    Do you have it confirmed form the council that they do not own the land and that they aren't interested in it?

    If so then you could try and claim it as long as you have permission of all the other houses on the street that have a right of access.

    Had a similar thing in my last house - all of the houses on the road agreed to give up their right of way (all signed and documented) and then everyone extended their gardens a few feet, removing the alley completely.  We first approached the council to check they didn't own it - they confirmed and said they had no interest.

    I wouldn't do anything without agreement from everyone.
    Thanks for your response.
    The council have confirmed that they do not own it.
    Would you be able to share what the document you prepared for your neighbours entailed?
  • Could you say why you want to do this?
  • lincroft1710
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    edited 11 November 2020 at 5:20PM
    Oddly enough this happened in the street where I lived. 

    When my parents bought their end terrace house nearly 70 yrs ago it originally had an alley running alongside our house and then along the backs of all 4 houses between the yards and gardens, then back down the side of the other ET house. However some time previously the owners of the other ET had blocked access from their end and joined yard to garden, so that the only access was from our end.

    More recently this happened in an adjoining street. A terrace of 7 houses had an alley running along the back between the yards and gardens with access from 2 parallel roads. 4 of these houses (including an end house) had a further alley running along the back of their gardens which gave rear access to houses in one of the parallel roads. Over the years the owners of these 4 houses extended over the alley, so joining yards and gardens and created access via gates into the second alley. Thus there was now only access from one end of the alley.The 5th  house also extended as they were now the last house accessed by the alley
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  • Would that wording restrict the ‘ all persons ‘ to only those that live in that terrace ? 
    Is there a whole network of back roads ? I know I can walk around my town for long distances by following the back roads right of ways where the ROW  are general ones not restricted to those that live in the individual streets. 

  • Dymphna60 said:
    Would that wording restrict the ‘ all persons ‘ to only those that live in that terrace ? 
    Is there a whole network of back roads ? I know I can walk around my town for long distances by following the back roads right of ways where the ROW  are general ones not restricted to those that live in the individual streets.
    rights of way at all times hereafter and for all purposes in common with all other persons entitled to similar rights

    No way of knowing just from the OP's Title wording.....

  • sheramber
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    How much extra land would you obtain and to what purpose? It seems a   work and money for not a lot of gain.
  • Thanks for your response.
    The council have confirmed that they do not own it.
    Would you be able to share what the document you prepared for your neighbours entailed?
    We had a lawyer draft it - they made sure that the wording referenced the original right of way and for everyone to sign the same document agreeing to waive the rights to access.
    It was some years ago now and I don't live there anymore so I no longer have a copy of it to hand.

    As well as your neighbour's gardens that back onto it, you might have to also consider what land is on the other side and if they also have access rights.

  • theoretica
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    Dymphna60 said:
    Would that wording restrict the ‘ all persons ‘ to only those that live in that terrace ? 
    Is there a whole network of back roads ? I know I can walk around my town for long distances by following the back roads right of ways where the ROW  are general ones not restricted to those that live in the individual streets. 

    That is a good point - it this is a public ROW blocking it entirely at any point would get very complicated.   The photograph looks to me like it does get a reasonable amount of foot traffic over the cobbles.

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