Boss not letting me work from home

duk3nuk3m

Marvel1 said:

Go in the office and be grateful you have a job.

Oh you're one of those. I absolutely am grateful that I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to follow the guidelines wherever I can.

duk3nuk3m

AskAsk said:
people in this country seem to a sense of self entitlement.  they will be asking for furlough to be extended beyond the covid crisis next so they can sit at home and earn 80% pay without having to get up early and go to work.

where do people think all this money is coming from that is paying for all this?  if you have a job and you are asked to go to the office or the factory to do your job, then do so.  unless you can prove that the condition there is not safe, there is no grounds for refusal.

Please show me where I have come across as self-entitled and mentioned being furloughed. I have not been furloughed at all this year and I have worked from home with no negative effects to my work performance. I have just clearly stated that my job role is one that can be effectively carried out at home.

bradders1983

duk3nuk3m said:

Marvel1 said:

Go in the office and be grateful you have a job.

Oh you're one of those. I absolutely am grateful that I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to follow the guidelines wherever I can.

Key word there being "guideline". There is nothing legally stopping a) you going into work, or b) your boss insisting you go into work. How much you want to resist is up to you, nobody on here knows how secure your job is.

Even retail staff have to go into work this week in England if asked. Yes they cant open the doors and serve anybody, but they could still be asked to go in and stocktake or whatever.

duk3nuk3m

bradders1983 said:

duk3nuk3m said:

Marvel1 said:https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

Go in the office and be grateful you have a job.

Oh you're one of those. I absolutely am grateful that I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to follow the guidelines wherever I can.

Key word there being "guideline". There is nothing legally stopping a) you going into work, or b) your boss insisting you go into work.

I understand that it is a "guideline" but what is the point in the government issuing a new guideline if it doesn't have to be followed?

bradders1983

Well, here we are. Like I said, up to you how difficult you want to be about it, good luck.

Andy_L

duk3nuk3m said:

bradders1983 said:

duk3nuk3m said:

Marvel1 said:https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

Go in the office and be grateful you have a job.

Oh you're one of those. I absolutely am grateful that I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to follow the guidelines wherever I can.

Key word there being "guideline". There is nothing legally stopping a) you going into work, or b) your boss insisting you go into work.

I understand that it is a "guideline" but what is the point in the government issuing a new guideline if it doesn't have to be followed?

The law behind the guidelines is that
".—(1) No person may leave or be outside of the place where they are living without reasonable excuse....[now follows some specific exceptions to that]
Exception 2: work, voluntary services, education and training etc(4) Exception 2 is that it is reasonably necessary for P to leave or be outside P’s home—

(a)for the purposes of work or to provide voluntary or charitable services, where it is not reasonably possible for P to work, or to provide those services, from home;"

TELLIT01

Current government advice is to work from home wherever possible but it does seem that the employer believes they need people to work from the office.  That decision may well be based on issues identified with people working from home during the first lockdown.  The OP is only being asked to spend part of the week in the office and that doesn't seem unreasonable if there is a genuine business need.  An employees opinion that they worked perfectly well from home may not be shared by the employer.

Where my wife works they have always logged work done on a daily basis, even before lockdown.  For some employees the figures have barely changed whilst working from home, indeed some have actually increased productivity, but the figures for others have fallen dramatically.  Those in the latter category probably believe they are still performing OK.

Undervalued

duk3nuk3m said:

bradders1983 said:

duk3nuk3m said:

Marvel1 said:https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

Go in the office and be grateful you have a job.

Oh you're one of those. I absolutely am grateful that I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to follow the guidelines wherever I can.

Key word there being "guideline". There is nothing legally stopping a) you going into work, or b) your boss insisting you go into work.

I understand that it is a "guideline" but what is the point in the government issuing a new guideline if it doesn't have to be followed?

Because then it would be a law / rule!

Much of the highway code is not specific law in itself. Just breaking the code is not in itself an offence. Depending on how you break it you might (or might not) be breaking other laws but that is another matter.

Similarly, at one time it was a legal requirement for employers to follow ACAS's rules for disciplinary processes. It no long is, although an employer still needs to follow a fair process. Following ACAS's guidelines (as they now are) are a reliable way of doing so but other different processes may well be fair and therefor lawful.

Marcon

duk3nuk3m said:

I currently have a disagreement with my boss at work. The company I work for is classed as "essential" where some of my colleagues are able to work from home and some are not due to their job roles. During the lockdown earlier this year, I proved that I was able to work from home effectively. Since the 2nd lockdown was announced, my boss is now insisting that I come into the office on a certain number of days and work from home on the other days. Is there anything I can do, as I feel as though my boss is completely disregarding the current guidelines?

What a fuss about nothing. Just get on with, as many millions are doing without this level of quibbling.

Marcon

duk3nuk3m said:

bradders1983 said:

duk3nuk3m said:

Marvel1 said:https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

Go in the office and be grateful you have a job.

Oh you're one of those. I absolutely am grateful that I have a job, but I also have a responsibility to follow the guidelines wherever I can.

Key word there being "guideline". There is nothing legally stopping a) you going into work, or b) your boss insisting you go into work.

I understand that it is a "guideline" but what is the point in the government issuing a new guideline if it doesn't have to be followed?

If it had to be followed, it wouldn't be a 'guideline' - it would be a legal requirement.