Exempt from lockdown, private medical practice?

Aranyani

bradders1983 said:

Aranyani said:

unforeseen said:

Two of them have people in their family that are shielding and are very worried about getting in. . .

Just to be clear, NOBODY is shielding. Shielding was paused at the end of July and has not been resumed. 
All the staff have to do is to implement the measures that have been posted on here a myriad of times and are also on the gov site.
There has been no mention of additional special measures for those living with vulnerable or clinically extremely vulnerable people apart from what is already out there. 

I think people now just use shielding as shorthand for someone who was on the shielding list earlier in the year, its quick and people know what it means. 

And its fair enough if you are one of those people, but I have little time for people refusing to go in merely because they live with someone who was. That ship has sailed, if anything it sank minutes after leaving port. If people want to protect people they live with in this way they can resign imo, and let one of the rising masses of the unemployed take their job.

Harsh? Maybe.

A bit harsh perhaps but I agree with the principle. 

Many NHS and other frontline staff carried on going on to work despite living with shielders and other vulnerable people.  If you take the correct precautions you can keep them safe and keep working. 

diggingdude

I'm at a much higher risk. Not a shielder but not a million miles away either. I have worked in the community through all this. If you are careful nothing much changes. I'm still more likely to be killed by a bus 

unforeseen

Aranyani said:

bradders1983 said:

Aranyani said:

unforeseen said:

Two of them have people in their family that are shielding and are very worried about getting in. . .

Just to be clear, NOBODY is shielding. Shielding was paused at the end of July and has not been resumed. 
All the staff have to do is to implement the measures that have been posted on here a myriad of times and are also on the gov site.
There has been no mention of additional special measures for those living with vulnerable or clinically extremely vulnerable people apart from what is already out there. 

I think people now just use shielding as shorthand for someone who was on the shielding list earlier in the year, its quick and people know what it means. 

And its fair enough if you are one of those people, but I have little time for people refusing to go in merely because they live with someone who was. That ship has sailed, if anything it sank minutes after leaving port. If people want to protect people they live with in this way they can resign imo, and let one of the rising masses of the unemployed take their job.

Harsh? Maybe.

A bit harsh perhaps but I agree with the principle. 

Many NHS and other frontline staff carried on going on to work despite living with shielders and other vulnerable people.  If you take the correct precautions you can keep them safe and keep working. 

Precisely. I was a shielder, my wife works in a care home and she carried on working throughout with relevant precautions being taken at home. We are still doing this now as I am now self-isolating for hospital treatment for 8 weeks. In between the end of lockdown and now I returned to work.
The only reason that I didn't work at my normal location during lockdown is that my employer decided that all shielders would work from home or be put on furlough if work couldn't be found for them. 

Andy_L

Jon_01 said:

Okay, my wife works for a private medical practice. All the admin staff like her 'assumed' they'd be locked down from Thursday and working from home.

The consultants that run the company say that 'Medical service companies' are exempt from locking down and they want everyone in.
I've looked through the rules as published on Oct 31st and Nov 1st and all I can see is that NHS medical service are exempt not the private sector.
Does anyone have any insight into this part of the rules?

Thanks...

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november#businesses-and-venues

"Other businesses are permitted to stay open, following COVID-19 Secure guidelines. This includes those providing essential goods or services, including:....

• Medical and dental services"

MoneySeeker1

bradders1983 said:

Aranyani said:

unforeseen said:

Two of them have people in their family that are shielding and are very worried about getting in. . .

Just to be clear, NOBODY is shielding. Shielding was paused at the end of July and has not been resumed. 
All the staff have to do is to implement the measures that have been posted on here a myriad of times and are also on the gov site.
There has been no mention of additional special measures for those living with vulnerable or clinically extremely vulnerable people apart from what is already out there. 

I think people now just use shielding as shorthand for someone who was on the shielding list earlier in the year, its quick and people know what it means. 

And its fair enough if you are one of those people, but I have little time for people refusing to go in merely because they live with someone who was. That ship has sailed, if anything it sank minutes after leaving port. If people want to protect people they live with in this way they can resign imo, and let one of the rising masses of the unemployed take their job.

Harsh? Maybe.

One can only agree with that- if an employer has the choice between someone doing their job as normal and someone else who either can't or won't - what they gonna choose? Which is precisely why a friend of mine only months from retirement (in a different sort of job) kept her job when Lockdown redundancies happened and one of the ones that got a Lockdown redundancy was "shielding" (albeit because of someone else, rather than themselves personally).

Dr_Crypto

All medical premises are to remain open regardless of sector.