Shared Electric Gates

ontheroad1970

I have electric gates and this is a nightmare with deliveries as often the postman doesn't bother ringing and just puts in a Sorry I Missed You card.  Annoying enough for me when I have sole ownership.  How much more annoying for the neighbour, both the owner and tenant?  Can't see this being doable.

Mickey666

giraffe69 said:

A house nearby us has a shared driveway and gates. The gates come most of the way across and there is a smaller gate on each side for pedestrian access which overcomes the problem of package delivery etc. Their main concerns were, I believe, security and people using the driveway to turn round

If it’s just to control vehicle access then a rising bollard might be better than gates.  Far easier to install and doesn’t block pedestrian access for postal/courier deliveries etc.

Manxman_in_exile

Why are you posting on the Motoring board - your question has nothing to do with cars but with property law?  Post on the House Buying etc board - it's about property rights not cars

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facade said:

If the drive is shared with the neighbour, ask them if you can fix the gate to their house, I assume they would be opening the gate to get in anyway.

Otherwise, a post each side I suppose, gates cant open out over the pavement, so a long gate would use up your drive when it opens (and the gate has to fasten to something).

You can get gates that slide into the wall, you can see an example here - I'm thought there was one on that road with a shared driveway but maybe not - if done on a rail, you would need the fixing both sides but it's easy enough and most ***** who deliver park in the bike lanes anyway

revengep8nt14

Manxman_in_exile said:

Why are you posting on the Motoring board - your question has nothing to do with cars but with property law?  Post on the House Buying etc board - it's about property rights not cars

Alright mate chill - my error. 
No delivery men need to go down the drive. It is literally for parking 2 cars. My main concern is security and people using it to turn around in. There is no shared ownership, I own the driveway and the tenants have right of way however I can see it becoming an issue if there are quick turn arounds with tenants, repairs and maintenance and all that comes with it. 

AdrianC

unforeseen said:

Electric fob activated gates cannot work where more than one household is involved.

They not only can do, but they frequently do. Many gated developments, flats, and the like have them.

They usually have a way to call each individual property's entryphone, and often a keypad for fobless entry without calling. The postie and emergency services will usually know the code, so they can let themselves in.

I know of one development which put such gates in... only to have to leave them publicly-openable for pedestrian access, since the route was determined to be an established permanent right of way...

unforeseen

. There is no shared ownership, I own the driveway and the tenants have right of way

The Right of Way is the problem. No different to it being a shared drive. They have exactly the same rights in both situations. 

unforeseen

AdrianC said:

unforeseen said:

Electric fob activated gates cannot work where more than one household is involved.

They not only can do, but they frequently do. Many gated developments, flats, and the like have them.

They usually have a way to call each individual property's entryphone, and often a keypad for fobless entry without calling. The postie and emergency services will usually know the code, so they can let themselves in.

I know of one development which put such gates in... only to have to leave them publicly-openable for pedestrian access, since the route was determined to be an established permanent right of way...

Gated developments are a situation where people have actively chosen that arrangement because that is the way that they were designed, built and sold. Is the op going to go to the trouble and cost of adding a pedestrian gate and entryphone system? I doubt either of those are in the costing model.

What hasn't been mentioned is whether there is sufficient space between the carriageway and where the gates would be to enable vehicle to completely clear the road while the gates open (it will be a planning requirement). If so then the purpose of stopping people using the drive to turn is doomed to failure. 

AdrianC

unforeseen said:

AdrianC said:

unforeseen said:

Electric fob activated gates cannot work where more than one household is involved.

They not only can do, but they frequently do. Many gated developments, flats, and the like have them.

They usually have a way to call each individual property's entryphone, and often a keypad for fobless entry without calling. The postie and emergency services will usually know the code, so they can let themselves in.

I know of one development which put such gates in... only to have to leave them publicly-openable for pedestrian access, since the route was determined to be an established permanent right of way...

Gated developments are a situation where people have actively chosen that arrangement because that is the way that they were designed, built and sold. Is the op going to go to the trouble and cost of adding a pedestrian gate and entryphone system? I doubt either of those are in the costing model. 

Oh, I very much doubt the OP has considered half of the factors they really should do...

Like who's going to be responsible for ongoing maintenance of the gate, and who's going to be responsible for damage to it or caused by it, and who gets called when it throws its toys late at night on a weekend in the horizontal rain, locking people in or out...

Ectophile

Only one of the gate posts will be load bearing - the one with the gate hinged on it.  That post needs to be absolutely solid or else it will gradually collapse over time.

The other post is just something for the gate to latch on to.  It doesn't have to be firmly attached to anybody's wall.  Concreting it into the ground should be enough.

Unless, that is, you were thinking of two gates, meeting in the middle.