Speeding Fine - car noted as goods vehicle?

ontheroad1970

In the old days of the tax disc/Vehicle Excise Duty disc, cars used to designated as PLG or Private Light Goods.  That's not what is on the letter is it?

ElephantBoy57

Segandy said:

That’s interesting. I don’t have the V5 as it’s a lease car. I’ll have to contact the lease company 

Just look on here

https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla

Segandy

ElephantBoy57 said:

Segandy said:

That’s interesting. I don’t have the V5 as it’s a lease car. I’ll have to contact the lease company 

Just look on here

https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla

Cheers. It’s down as M1 - passenger car

AdrianC

81 in a 70 should be within the threshold for a course, assuming all other eligibility is met. If not, or if that's refused, then it's definitely FPN territory.

If it was being judged to goods vehicle limits, then 81 in a 60 would be outside the offer of a course, but still within FPN.

Assuming it's not a motorway but a dual carriageway, then an FPN would be on the licence as SP10 for a goods vehicle offence, SP30 for car.

williamgriffin

TooManyPoints said:

The lower speed limit applies to all goods vehicles over two tonnes. 

Indeed it does (leaving aside the exception for dual-purpose vehicles weighing up to 2,040kg). But a Kia Sportage is not a goods vehicle.

But somewhat misleading when you say up 7.5 tonnes.

TooManyPoints

This is all immaterial because the OP's vehicle is clearly not a goods vehicle. But as a point of interest it doesn't actually matter what is on the V5C. It's what the vehicle is that counts. There have been instances of the classification being incorrect on the DVLA's records, particularly where Car Derived Vans and Dual Purpose Vehicles are concerned. Drivers have faced prosecution for exceeding the goods' vehicle limits when driving vehicles of these types when they are actually subject to the limits applicable to cars.

williamgriffin

TooManyPoints said:

This is all immaterial because the OP's vehicle is clearly not a goods vehicle. But as a point of interest it doesn't actually matter what is on the V5C. It's what the vehicle is that counts. There have been instances of the classification being incorrect on the DVLA's records, particularly where Car Derived Vans and Dual Purpose Vehicles are concerned. Drivers have faced prosecution for exceeding the goods' vehicle limits when driving vehicles of these types when they are actually subject to the limits applicable to cars.

What you actually mean is the reduced speed limit also applies to goods vehicles over 7.5 tonnes too. 

Biggus_Dickus

Segandy said:

ElephantBoy57 said:

Segandy said:

That’s interesting. I don’t have the V5 as it’s a lease car. I’ll have to contact the lease company 

Just look on here

https://www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla

Cheers. It’s down as M1 - passenger car

The DVLA records show your Vehicle type approval is M1,...however, the Rozzers apparently believe your Kia Sportage  is a goods vehicle. 

The  Rozzers presumably requested, or accessed automatically, information from the DVLA about your vehicle and their initial point of reference can only be your registration number. 

I’m a bit unsure on this point but I seem to recall from a few years ago that in some cases an M1 could still be additionally classed as a goods vehicle,...to do with extra seats and side panel windows,...something like that anyway,...don’t hold me to it! 

There’s a conflict somewhere that needs bottoming urgently;... in the DVLA records?;...or perhaps a simple clerical error on the part of the Rozzers?...who knows. 

Speak to all relevant parties (lease company, Rozzers, DVLA)  asap. Good luck with the DVLA btw, you’ll probably need it.

TooManyPoints

What you actually mean is the reduced speed limit also applies to goods vehicles over 7.5 tonnes too. 

It's certainly true that further reduced speed limits apply to larger goods vehicles. But that fact has nothing to do with this question or my replies.

Grumpy_chap

Biggus_Dickus said:

There’s a conflict somewhere that needs bottoming urgently;... in the DVLA records?;...or perhaps a simple clerical error on the part of the Rozzers?...who knows.

And to verify the photos that it is actually the OP's vehicle, not a Transit with similar number plate and a smudge of mud that was incorrectly read by the computer.