Do I need planning permission?

Slinky

We have a 1960s house with coloured concrete hanging tiles on the whole of the first floor elevation up to the apex. They are ugly.  We are at the end of 2 pairs of semi/link detached houses, (the attached part being the two adjoining garages).  Our neighbouring properties in the street are similar 1960s  style of differing types, but not with the hanging tiles. Another house has made a lot of changes and covered the entire front of the house with horizontal upvc boarding.

Do we need planning permission to replace the coloured hanging tiles with split face mosaic tiles similar to this?  https://www.stonetilecompany.co.uk/rustic-country-multicolour-split-face-mosaic-tiles-large

We plan to render the rest of the brickwork in a complimentary coloured render on the front elevation.

The property is going to look very different to its neighbours. Do we need to apply for permission?

AskAsk

have you searched on your council website for what needs planning permission or building regs approval?  if in doubt, you can contact the council and ask.

Slinky

According to planningportal.co.uk

cladding may be carried out without having to first apply for planning permission provided the materials are of a similar appearance to those used in the construction of the house.

Could you say split face mosaics are similar to concrete hanging tiles?

Doozergirl

Slinky said:

According to planningportal.co.uk

cladding may be carried out without having to first apply for planning permission provided the materials are of a similar appearance to those used in the construction of the house.

Could you say split face mosaics are similar to concrete hanging tiles?

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Slinky

Doozergirl said:

Slinky said:

According to planningportal.co.uk

cladding may be carried out without having to first apply for planning permission provided the materials are of a similar appearance to those used in the construction of the house.

Could you say split face mosaics are similar to concrete hanging tiles?

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So you think we will have to apply for permission?

Doozergirl

Slinky said:

Doozergirl said:

Slinky said:

According to planningportal.co.uk

cladding may be carried out without having to first apply for planning permission provided the materials are of a similar appearance to those used in the construction of the house.

Could you say split face mosaics are similar to concrete hanging tiles?

No.   

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So you think we will have to apply for permission?

I don't think you would fancy ripping it all off and replacing it because you assumed it was okay.  

You can seek pre-application advice; depending on your local authority it can be free.  Or not.  

AskAsk

Slinky said:

Doozergirl said:

Slinky said:

According to planningportal.co.uk

cladding may be carried out without having to first apply for planning permission provided the materials are of a similar appearance to those used in the construction of the house.

Could you say split face mosaics are similar to concrete hanging tiles?

No.   

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So you think we will have to apply for permission?

can you post the photos of what the two look like?   i think when you look at them side by side, it will be obvious that they are very dissimilar?  i have no idea what they look like, but if they are widely different, then you will need planning permission, or ask the council if you do, especially if the other houses on the street are all the same.

DevilDamo

The term ‘similar appearance’ is quite open ended. Although they’re both ‘tiles’, their appearance in my opinion would be very different.

You could look to seek the Council’s Pre-application advice but the majority would not provide advice on PD. They instead would ask a CoL/LDC application is submitted and they’d confirm whether or not the proposals would constitute PD. It may well save you time and money to just submit a formal (Householder) application to the LPA.

Slinky

No way could you describe them as similar in appearance. That's the whole point of replacing them! 

However the neighbour down the street has covered the entire outside front of his house, which had brown brick elevations, with horizontal grey upvc boarding, the 'New England' look, with no evidence of a planning application on the council planning portal.

We are planning an extension to the rear also which doesn't fit the similar materials and roof type of the original building, so I'm thinking that PD would be a risky option.

ic

I tried asking my council for advice on planning, and they simply responded with a fee list - essentially I had to do the equivalent of an application (including plans) at about half the cost, and they'd tell me that if I actually applied whether it was likely to be successful or not.  So it isn't as easy as "just ask your council" - they weren't willing to talk to me and have a conversation.

WaywardDriver

ic said:

I tried asking my council for advice on planning, and they simply responded with a fee list - essentially I had to do the equivalent of an application (including plans) at about half the cost, and they'd tell me that if I actually applied whether it was likely to be successful or not.  So it isn't as easy as "just ask your council" - they weren't willing to talk to me and have a conversation.

When I rang my local planning office yesterday about a proposed extension, the officer was very helpful and even looked at my house on Google Maps to see if there would be any problem with my proposal. 
So nothing to be lost in asking for advice.