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dbrookf said:
Can I use a relatively simple password (maybe the same one on all my sites) after having given a complex master password?Were_Doomed said:Obviously. You link each one to the same account (as the passwords are stored in the "cloud").
Alternatively if you use Google Chrome on each device and sign in to the same Google account then your passwords for websites will probably be stored by Google (if you've allowed that option)DO NOT USE THE SAME PASSWORDS MULTIPLE SITESThat's what a password manager is for4.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy
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No!dbrookf said:
Can I use a relatively simple password (maybe the same one on all my sites) after having given a complex master password?Were_Doomed said:Obviously. You link each one to the same account (as the passwords are stored in the "cloud").
Alternatively if you use Google Chrome on each device and sign in to the same Google account then your passwords for websites will probably be stored by Google (if you've allowed that option)
That is exactly the wrong approach. The master password is like the key to a door, it should be strong but easy to type as you will enter it every time you need to look up a login/password.
Every site you log in to should have a strong and unique password. Simple passwords are easy for hackers to crack. Using a password manager means you can easily manage complex passwords.
Please read up about strong passwords here
https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
(Though note that the haveibeenpwned site promotes a specific password manager, but you're free to choose another.)1 -
What’s the point then? Why don’t I just enter strong passwords with a manager?!glennevis said:
No!dbrookf said:
Can I use a relatively simple password (maybe the same one on all my sites) after having given a complex master password?Were_Doomed said:Obviously. You link each one to the same account (as the passwords are stored in the "cloud").
Alternatively if you use Google Chrome on each device and sign in to the same Google account then your passwords for websites will probably be stored by Google (if you've allowed that option)
That is exactly the wrong approach. The master password is like the key to a door, it should be strong but easy to type as you will enter it every time you need to look up a login/password.
Every site you log in to should have a strong and unique password. Simple passwords are easy for hackers to crack. Using a password manager means you can easily manage complex passwords.
Please read up about strong passwords here
https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
(Though note that the haveibeenpwned site promotes a specific password manager, but you're free to choose another.)0 -
The idea is for you to be able to remember ONE very strong password ... the key for Lastpass (or similar). Then for every website that you require a password, make each one very, very strong and let Lastpass remember those passwords for you. (You want strong passwords for the websites, and each one should be different. Doing that can make them all hard to remember ... which is why you use a password manager).1
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Ahhhhh thank you!Were_Doomed said:The idea is for you to be able to remember ONE very strong password ... the key for Lastpass (or similar). Then for every website that you require a password, make each one very, very strong and let Lastpass remember those passwords for you. (You want strong passwords for the websites, and each one should be different. Doing that can make them all hard to remember ... which is why you use a password manager).0 -
Google Chrome password manager works across all 3 devices and the easiest to use I have found after using Lastpass and Keepass.1
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1Password is another option to consider.Retired at age 56 after having "light bulb moment" due to reading MSE and its forums. Have been converted to the "budget to zero" concept and use YNAB for all monthly budgeting and long term goals.1
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dbrookf said:
Ahhhhh thank you!Were_Doomed said:The idea is for you to be able to remember ONE very strong password ... the key for Lastpass (or similar). Then for every website that you require a password, make each one very, very strong and let Lastpass remember those passwords for you. (You want strong passwords for the websites, and each one should be different. Doing that can make them all hard to remember ... which is why you use a password manager).Of course if you could remember your password for somewebsite is !*63H9{cn801^z, then you wouldn't need a password manager in the first place.
You can check how secure your passwords are at websites like https://www.security.org/how-secure-is-my-password/ - the above example says it would take a computer 4 billion years to crack. And if I stick a number one on the end of it - 4 hundred billion years. Secure enough? Maybe so, especially if you change it regularly.1 -
If you are going to do that, then there's not much point having a password manager. A relatively simple password is easy to crack, and if it's cracked on any one of the sites on which you use the same password, then it can be reused across all sites.dbrookf said:Can I use a relatively simple password (maybe the same one on all my sites) after having given a complex master password?
A good password manager will generate random passwords for each site, which will be harder to crack and, if one is cracked, it won't give access to any other sites.
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So would you suggest i used really obscure ones like this?Neil_Jones said:dbrookf said:
Ahhhhh thank you!Were_Doomed said:The idea is for you to be able to remember ONE very strong password ... the key for Lastpass (or similar). Then for every website that you require a password, make each one very, very strong and let Lastpass remember those passwords for you. (You want strong passwords for the websites, and each one should be different. Doing that can make them all hard to remember ... which is why you use a password manager).Of course if you could remember your password for somewebsite is !*63H9{cn801^z, then you wouldn't need a password manager in the first place.
You can check how secure your passwords are at websites like https://www.security.org/how-secure-is-my-password/ - the above example says it would take a computer 4 billion years to crack. And if I stick a number one on the end of it - 4 hundred billion years. Secure enough? Maybe so, especially if you change it regularly.0
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