County Court Claim - Excel Parking; Drop off zone

Snakes_Belly

molokoid said:

Snakes_Belly said:

Excel/VCS tend to make these offers when the claim is weak. They don't make them in every case. That said going to court is still a lottery but it is also a lottery for them especially if the judge has allocated two hours for the case as they will have to pay a rep for two hours even if the case only lasts 10 mins.     

I will check the paperwork when i'm back in my home office, but from memory there is 30 minutes allocated.  And the District Judge has laid out a list of items required from the Claimant.  Whether that list is in response to my defence or just a template standard they use in these parking matters i am unsure.

That sounds like a directions hearing which may involve another hearing. Expensive for the Claimant. 

Snakes_Belly

Did you manage to obtain a letter of authority about the drop off? That would be useful for your WS.  You are not asking for them to contact Excel to cancel the claim just to state facts. They don't have to engage with Excel at all.

Coupon-mad

I agree, 30 minutes is just a preliminary hearing to narrow the issues and try to persuade one side or the other to drop it.  DON'T.

molokoid

Fruitcake said:

If/when you have the scammer's WS, please post it here for the regulars to look over. Please only redact YOUR personal data. Hopefully you will get it before you have to submit yours. 

Yes, i will do.  The Trial Date is 16 days away, should i have expected to receive theirs by now?  (I assume not as they would have received the Notice of Trial Date probably at the same time as I, within the last week)

molokoid

Snakes_Belly said:

molokoid said:

Snakes_Belly said:

Excel/VCS tend to make these offers when the claim is weak. They don't make them in every case. That said going to court is still a lottery but it is also a lottery for them especially if the judge has allocated two hours for the case as they will have to pay a rep for two hours even if the case only lasts 10 mins.     

I will check the paperwork when i'm back in my home office, but from memory there is 30 minutes allocated.  And the District Judge has laid out a list of items required from the Claimant.  Whether that list is in response to my defence or just a template standard they use in these parking matters i am unsure.

That sounds like a directions hearing which may involve another hearing. Expensive for the Claimant. 

Coupon-mad said:

I agree, 30 minutes is just a preliminary hearing to narrow the issues and try to persuade one side or the other to drop it.  DON'T.

(Relevant) document names, dates and relevant content...
Notice of Proposed Allocation to the Small Claims Track - 11th November 2020, with Directions Questionnaire
Notice of Transfer of Proceedings - 19th November 2020
Notice of Allocation to the Small Claims Track (Hearing) - 18th December 2020.  In this document it states "The FINAL HEARING (yes, in caps) your case has been allocated 30 minutes of Court time." etc etc. "The evidence which the Claimant must file at court and send to the Defendant must include... and then, paraphrasing... Contract, authorised by the landowner, location of contract, photographic evidence, allegations of breach of contract, explanation of alleged debt
Notice of Trial Date - 5 January 2021

Now posted correctly on new thread

KeithP

molokoid said:

Snakes_Belly said:

molokoid said:

Snakes_Belly said:

Excel/VCS tend to make these offers when the claim is weak. They don't make them in every case. That said going to court is still a lottery but it is also a lottery for them especially if the judge has allocated two hours for the case as they will have to pay a rep for two hours even if the case only lasts 10 mins.     

I will check the paperwork when i'm back in my home office, but from memory there is 30 minutes allocated.  And the District Judge has laid out a list of items required from the Claimant.  Whether that list is in response to my defence or just a template standard they use in these parking matters i am unsure.

That sounds like a directions hearing which may involve another hearing. Expensive for the Claimant. 

Coupon-mad said:

I agree, 30 minutes is just a preliminary hearing to narrow the issues and try to persuade one side or the other to drop it.  DON'T.

"The Defendant must include... and then, paraphrasing... Contract, authorised by the landowner, location of contract, photographic evidence, allegations of breach of contract, explanation of alleged debt

Or did it perhaps say "The Claimant must include..."?

molokoid

KeithP said:

Or did it perhaps say "The Claimant must include..."?

Corrected my copy in last post (i just parrot-fashioned the last part in my efforts to shorten!!)

molokoid

Am i ok to post a redacted copy of the WS here for any review and comment please?

Fruitcake

Yes of course it is.

1505grandad

This thread seems to be about a Birmingham incident but the WS states Wells-Next-The-Sea?