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Hi,
i am about to receive my dads pension after he passed away last month, i currently pay CMS for my son who's mother doesnt let me see him.
in hopefully the final form i have to sign and send the pension company have given me a figure of £16800 and they have asked me for my national insurance number
i was wondering if the CMS will hear about this payment to me and if so will they up my payments to the ex?
i am not really planning on saving the money i'm thinking of getting a newer car and putting the rest either into a savings accound for my son who i have with my current partner or preimum bonds

any advice would be great thanks 
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  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    That's not how it works, so do as you intend with the money, unless you are on some kind of credits , that amount may take you above the claim threshold.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    Hack2600 said:
    Hi,
    i am about to receive my dads pension after he passed away last month, i currently pay CMS for my son who's mother doesnt let me see him.
    in hopefully the final form i have to sign and send the pension company have given me a figure of £16800 and they have asked me for my national insurance number
    i was wondering if the CMS will hear about this payment to me and if so will they up my payments to the ex?
    i am not really planning on saving the money i'm thinking of getting a newer car and putting the rest either into a savings accound for my son who i have with my current partner or preimum bonds

    any advice would be great thanks 
    Not, you know, getting a court order to see your child?...
  • DUTR said:
    That's not how it works, so do as you intend with the money, unless you are on some kind of credits , that amount may take you above the claim threshold.
    I don't get what you mean? I'm not on any credit I work full time 
  • Rubyroobs
    Rubyroobs Posts: 1,082 Forumite
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    Hack2600 said:
    DUTR said:
    That's not how it works, so do as you intend with the money, unless you are on some kind of credits , that amount may take you above the claim threshold.
    I don't get what you mean? I'm not on any credit I work full time 
    I think they mean are you getting any kind of top up benefit like Universal credit or tax credits?
  • Deenport
    Deenport Posts: 71 Forumite
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    It probably will be taken into account as the CMS now use inheritance, interest and other earnings to calculate the payments. They may not immediately increase the amount as I’m unsure how often they calculate but if they recalculate later and you have already spent the money it may put you into arrears. 
  • Deenport
    Deenport Posts: 71 Forumite
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    Comms69 said:
    Hack2600 said:
    Hi,
    i am about to receive my dads pension after he passed away last month, i currently pay CMS for my son who's mother doesnt let me see him.
    in hopefully the final form i have to sign and send the pension company have given me a figure of £16800 and they have asked me for my national insurance number
    i was wondering if the CMS will hear about this payment to me and if so will they up my payments to the ex?
    i am not really planning on saving the money i'm thinking of getting a newer car and putting the rest either into a savings accound for my son who i have with my current partner or preimum bonds

    any advice would be great thanks 
    Not, you know, getting a court order to see your child?...
    Not helpful. Should refrain from making comments based on assumptions about this person’s circumstances. 
  • yksi
    yksi Posts: 1,025 Forumite
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    So you want to make sure your first son doesn't get any of the money so that you can give it to your younger son? 
  • yksi said:
    So you want to make sure your first son doesn't get any of the money so that you can give it to your younger son? 
    Please read Forum Rules. This is not a platform for this kind of response. If you don’t want to offer any helpful advice, then don’t comment. 
  • yksi
    yksi Posts: 1,025 Forumite
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    lorsferg said:
    Please read Forum Rules. This is not a platform for this kind of response. If you don’t want to offer any helpful advice, then don’t comment. 
    It's a forum for helping people to get their benefit entitlements, not for people asking how to dodge their responsibilities or hide money from authorities. Your post count indicates you've probably got two usernames, which is against the rules, since you only post threads for advice or play pretend policeman when it's not your job to tell other people off. If you don't have anything appropriate to say, don't comment?

    OP I'm sorry for your loss. You might have had a legitimate reason for protecting money for your younger son, perhaps the mother of the elder one is well-off and doesn't need the support or there are already investments for the elder child. But it didn't look that way, so just imagine how it would look to your sons if they ever found out :neutral: 

    OP it is important to understand that any monetary obligation is separate to being able to spend time with the child. I can see you don't think that's fair (and I don't blame you) and it feels like you're giving money to your ex, but remember it's for your son not for her. Comms69 might have had a fair point in a roundabout way, have you taken legal advice if she's not being reasonable with letting you see him? This money might be the way you could get proper legal process. You deserve a relationship with your child, and I hope that you're able to one day spend time with your child even if you aren't friends with his mother. I have been a separating parent and it's awful and it was very very hard for me to drop the anger but it was important for my kids that we moved on. Maybe get an obligation free first meeting with someone who specialises in family law?
  • Deenport
    Deenport Posts: 71 Forumite
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    yksi said:
    lorsferg said:
    Please read Forum Rules. This is not a platform for this kind of response. If you don’t want to offer any helpful advice, then don’t comment. 
    It's a forum for helping people to get their benefit entitlements, not for people asking how to dodge their responsibilities or hide money from authorities. Your post count indicates you've probably got two usernames, which is against the rules, since you only post threads for advice or play pretend policeman when it's not your job to tell other people off. If you don't have anything appropriate to say, don't comment?

    OP I'm sorry for your loss. You might have had a legitimate reason for protecting money for your younger son, perhaps the mother of the elder one is well-off and doesn't need the support or there are already investments for the elder child. But it didn't look that way, so just imagine how it would look to your sons if they ever found out :neutral: 

    OP it is important to understand that any monetary obligation is separate to being able to spend time with the child. I can see you don't think that's fair (and I don't blame you) and it feels like you're giving money to your ex, but remember it's for your son not for her. Comms69 might have had a fair point in a roundabout way, have you taken legal advice if she's not being reasonable with letting you see him? This money might be the way you could get proper legal process. You deserve a relationship with your child, and I hope that you're able to one day spend time with your child even if you aren't friends with his mother. I have been a separating parent and it's awful and it was very very hard for me to drop the anger but it was important for my kids that we moved on. Maybe get an obligation free first meeting with someone who specialises in family law?
    Now that’s a more helpful response. No I don’t have 2 profiles, no I don’t play pretend policeman, but like to offer any suggestions that might be of help to the OP. I feel very frustrated and angry when folks ask for help and responders use their reply to offer sarcastic, judgemental and unhelpful comments. However I’m glad that you have taken my comments on board and are now being supportive. 
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