CCTV

Buzzard1985

Hi,
Somebody asked for CCTV to be checked as alleged damage to their vehicle-work premises.    No formal application-verbal.  Declined.  My understanding is this needs to be written and even if damage by a person or by a vehicle causing the damage the offender can't be IDd- this correct?    The rationale is pull up CCTV save it- show the event to the applicant and she can say yeah it's X from whatever dept.

Doesn't sit well just having CCTV showed as the offender might raise it with union/Solictior/CItizen Advice and potential legal redress on such disclosure.
Thoughts on the is, please?

TooManyPoints

...and even if damage by a person or by a vehicle causing the damage the offender can't be IDd- this correct? 

If that is correct there is little point in having CCTV or registration marks displayed on vehicles.

bengalknights

The best solution is if the company knows who it was they should speak with them to "share" details, otherwise inline with GDPR and Data protection this should not be shared with individuals.

Sandtree

If you are concerned with legal ramifications then you should be speaking to your solicitor not an internet forum.

Having dealt with motor claims for years, pre GDPR though, approaches to CCTV varied significantly... most were happy to give CCTV that identified the vehicles involved as long as no faces could be clearly seen. Some companies offered to give the CCTV as long as we paid for the footage to be edited first to remove other car regs/peoples faces... though this meant the company was sharing the video unedited to others to get the editing done before sending it to us which was a little counter intuitive. Others just sent the full video totally unedited. 

born_again

bengalknights said:

The best solution is if the company knows who it was they should speak with them to "share" details, otherwise inline with GDPR and Data protection this should not be shared with individuals.

https://www.gov.uk/request-cctv-footage-of-yourself

It is legal to share where you are involved.

Car_54

born_again said:

bengalknights said:

The best solution is if the company knows who it was they should speak with them to "share" details, otherwise inline with GDPR and Data protection this should not be shared with individuals.

https://www.gov.uk/request-cctv-footage-of-yourself

It is legal to share where you are involved.

That link says "You have the right to request CCTV footage of yourself." There's no mention of a right to see footage of your car. Probably because it doesn't exist.

Apodemus

Car_54 said:

That link says "You have the right to request CCTV footage of yourself." There's no mention of a right to see footage of your car. Probably because it doesn't exist.

An interesting question. If a car registration number is "personal data" under GDPR then surely, it would come under the same provisions for a data access request as any other personal data? Definitely one for the lawyers!

TooManyPoints

If a car registration number is "personal data" under GDPR then surely, it would come under the same provisions for a data access request as any other personal data?

Yes, VRMs are considered "personal data" under GDPR because they can be linked to a specific individual (the "Registered Keeper"). However, there are provisions in the GDPR for the processing of that data (i.e. providing you with the RK's details) If it is for a "legitimate purpose". I would suggest it is a legitimate purpose to trace the RK after a vehicle has piled into your car in a car park. If it isn't then we may as well dispense with number plates entirely. The DVLA Form 888 is what's required to get those details. Of course the RK may not be the person driving or the person responsible for the car, but you've got to start somewhere. If whoever controls the CCTV won't provide you with the VRM perhaps you should involve the police.

Buzzard1985

Thanks.  Told the person wanting to know who did the damage MUST make a formal request.  Person can't sit and watch. Best way is police then CCTV can be showed to them and copy provided .  Can't go giving copies or allowing folk to watch.  Formalities and breaching it if the person is in a union could cause legal action for that breach plus the rest.  Jesus so much to CCTV!!!
I add here no idea if the damage was done at this area which is on workplace property not public .