Track & Trace QR Code in stores - not working when scanned

Grumpy_chap

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What would happen if somebody (there must be some surely) has no phone at all?

They tie a piece of string around your wrist and, if there is a need to contact you, they reel you back in. 🤣
Or, maybe, they write your address.

Yahoo_Mail

bradders1983 said:

Yahoo_Mail said:

bradders1983 said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Even from within the app, I find a lot of places the code does not work.  Just waive your phone at the code and they seem to let you in.

"They" being who? The staff? There is no legal requirement to use the app.

The Government guidance does say that venue should check people's phones to make sure they have successfully checked in, although I've never actually seen this happen.

If anyone working in a shop or restaurant asked to inspect my phone, they wouldnt get a very pleasant reply in response to be perfectly honest.  They could just take my word for it.

They could, but they're leaving themselves open to a fine.  If people haven't checked in, the business must refuse entry (and obviously service.)  I don't think "Well he waved his phone around at the QR code so I thought he'd checked in" would be a valid excuse.

MattMattMattUK

Yahoo_Mail said:

The Government guidance does say that venue should check people's phones to make sure they have successfully checked in, although I've never actually seen this happen.

I have seen this happen in pubs, I have seen door staff require to be shown before allowing admission, for the venue it is not worth the risk of the fines.

MattMattMattUK

bradders1983 said:

If anyone working in a shop or restaurant asked to inspect my phone, they wouldnt get a very pleasant reply in response to be perfectly honest.  They could just take my word for it.

The you will probably be refused admission or told to leave and rightly slow. They are liable if you have not checked in or provided details, you would also be being deliberately rude to staff for no reason. If you did that to any of the landlords I know you would find yourself no longer welcome.

bradders1983

MattMattMattUK said:

bradders1983 said:

If anyone working in a shop or restaurant asked to inspect my phone, they wouldnt get a very pleasant reply in response to be perfectly honest.  They could just take my word for it.

The you will probably be refused admission or told to leave and rightly slow. They are liable if you have not checked in or provided details, you would also be being deliberately rude to staff for no reason. If you did that to any of the landlords I know you would find yourself no longer welcome.

They dont know the details provided are even correct so its a fruitless endeavour tbh.

MattMattMattUK

bradders1983 said:

They dont know the details provided are even correct so its a fruitless endeavour tbh.

The law does not require that they validate the details, but that they monifor check in and/or collect contact details. If they fail to collect details or verify check in then that is a legal issue for them. If you provide false details or reset the app every day so that it can never register a contact then that is your issue, but of no significance to them. 

They are faced with an obligation that I am sure they would rather not have, there is no need for individuals to be difficult and argumentative with people who are trying to do their job whilst complying with the law, that helps no-one.

poppy12345

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bradders1983 said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Yep, the people working at the premises open to the public.
I thought they legally had to log your visit.

Yes. But nowhere does it say it has to be a) through the NHS Covid app or b) using a smartphone. Think about it: what about if you dont have a smartphone?

The local pub-restaurant where I went for breakfast this morning was asking people to either scan their own code or the NHS one or if they didn't, give their first name and contact number which they wrote down.  What would happen if somebody (there must be some surely) has no phone at all?

I was in costa last week and for those that didn't have a phone they were refused a seat. I thought it was a little harsh because they could have just taken their details.

bradders1983

poppy12345 said:

He said:

bradders1983 said:

Grumpy_chap said:

Yep, the people working at the premises open to the public.
I thought they legally had to log your visit.

Yes. But nowhere does it say it has to be a) through the NHS Covid app or b) using a smartphone. Think about it: what about if you dont have a smartphone?

The local pub-restaurant where I went for breakfast this morning was asking people to either scan their own code or the NHS one or if they didn't, give their first name and contact number which they wrote down.  What would happen if somebody (there must be some surely) has no phone at all?

I was in costa last week and for those that didn't have a phone they were refused a seat. I thought it was a little harsh because they could have just taken their details.

That is absolutely bonkers. 

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Sounds more lazy on their behalf that they don’t want to take details. 

I’ve not been asked for details nor seen a code advertised in any place I’ve been in recently, must be my area then.