Is there a built-under 13A double oven

prowla

Well, yesterday I turned on the oven and the circuit breaker tripped. When I reset it, the oven switched on but didn't heat up, so I guess it's had it.

I've decided to buy a new one to replace it (it's old and I bought it used anyway).

Now, it's a 60cm tall single oven which sits under my hob and is on a shelf 10cm from the base of the unit, so there's the potential to fit a 70cm double (or is it one and a half?) one under there; something like the Belling BI702FP (https://ao.com/product/bi702fp-belling-electric-double-oven-stainless-steel-64413-48.aspx) would be ideal.

However, I've only got a 13A socket, so I'd really like one that will do the same (the hob is on a 16A wired-in connection next to it).

Are there any built-under double ovens which will run off a 13A socket?

If not, I guess I'll be looking at another single one...

Browntoa

Is it a 13 amp cable or just a 13 amp socket on a cooker cable. 

What fuse is on the cooker at the fuse box , how thick is the cable

grumbler

Well, this is some old model, but it's 2.8kW max, that is 11.7A

https://service.hoover.co.uk/advice-centre/ovens/hdo-889x/

prowla

Browntoa said:

Is it a 13 amp cable or just a 13 amp socket on a cooker cable. 

What fuse is on the cooker at the fuse box , how thick is the cable

It's a normal 13A flexible trailing lead with a normal 3-pin plug on it.

prowla

grumbler said:

Well, this is some old model, but it's 2.8kW max, that is 11.7A

https://service.hoover.co.uk/advice-centre/ovens/hdo-889x/

Its power consumption is 2.8 kW, so that fits 13A, thanks. :-)

However, its dimensions are 885 x 595 x 545, so it's too big for my 700 height. :-(

ace33

Could it just mean the element needs changing in the old oven?
Cost me just over a tenner and was 6 screws to replace in our oven?

Emmia

prowla said:

Well, yesterday I turned on the oven and the circuit breaker tripped. When I reset it, the oven switched on but didn't heat up, so I guess it's had it.

I've decided to buy a new one to replace it (it's old and I bought it used anyway).

Now, it's a 60cm tall single oven which sits under my hob and is on a shelf 10cm from the base of the unit, so there's the potential to fit a 70cm double (or is it one and a half?) one under there; something like the Belling BI702FP (https://ao.com/product/bi702fp-belling-electric-double-oven-stainless-steel-64413-48.aspx) would be ideal.

However, I've only got a 13A socket, so I'd really like one that will do the same (the hob is on a 16A wired-in connection next to it).

Are there any built-under double ovens which will run off a 13A socket?

If not, I guess I'll be looking at another single one...

I don't think your "niche" is big enough for a double oven - as the oven can't sit directly on the floor - niche dimensions for a single oven are usually 590mm - 600mm high, double ovens need a niche of around 720mm - 800mm high. Looking at specs online, double ovens are almost all hard wired too - so you wouldn't be able to do a plug in. (The one you linked to is a hard wire)

Given the cost and faff of replacing, I'd look to see if it's just the element, and replace that.

prowla

Emmia said:

prowla said:

Well, yesterday I turned on the oven and the circuit breaker tripped. When I reset it, the oven switched on but didn't heat up, so I guess it's had it.

I've decided to buy a new one to replace it (it's old and I bought it used anyway).

Now, it's a 60cm tall single oven which sits under my hob and is on a shelf 10cm from the base of the unit, so there's the potential to fit a 70cm double (or is it one and a half?) one under there; something like the Belling BI702FP (https://ao.com/product/bi702fp-belling-electric-double-oven-stainless-steel-64413-48.aspx) would be ideal.

However, I've only got a 13A socket, so I'd really like one that will do the same (the hob is on a 16A wired-in connection next to it).

Are there any built-under double ovens which will run off a 13A socket?

If not, I guess I'll be looking at another single one...

I don't think your "niche" is big enough for a double oven - as the oven can't sit directly on the floor - niche dimensions for a single oven are usually 590mm - 600mm high, double ovens need a niche of around 720mm - 800mm high. Looking at specs online, double ovens are almost all hard wired too - so you wouldn't be able to do a plug in. (The one you linked to is a hard wire)

Given the cost and faff of replacing, I'd look to see if it's just the element, and replace that.

Mine are standard MFI (remember them?) kitchen units 70cm base to underside of counter; most of the bays have a cupboard and drawer and the cooker one has a bottom shelf fitted 10cm above the base to give a 60cm bay to fit it.

So, if there are 700 mm ones, then I could simply remove that shelf and have one sit on the base instead.

Yes, the one I linked it a hard-wired one, hence the question whether there are 13A ones.

Emmia

prowla said:

Emmia said:

prowla said:

Well, yesterday I turned on the oven and the circuit breaker tripped. When I reset it, the oven switched on but didn't heat up, so I guess it's had it.

I've decided to buy a new one to replace it (it's old and I bought it used anyway).

Now, it's a 60cm tall single oven which sits under my hob and is on a shelf 10cm from the base of the unit, so there's the potential to fit a 70cm double (or is it one and a half?) one under there; something like the Belling BI702FP (https://ao.com/product/bi702fp-belling-electric-double-oven-stainless-steel-64413-48.aspx) would be ideal.

However, I've only got a 13A socket, so I'd really like one that will do the same (the hob is on a 16A wired-in connection next to it).

Are there any built-under double ovens which will run off a 13A socket?

If not, I guess I'll be looking at another single one...

I don't think your "niche" is big enough for a double oven - as the oven can't sit directly on the floor - niche dimensions for a single oven are usually 590mm - 600mm high, double ovens need a niche of around 720mm - 800mm high. Looking at specs online, double ovens are almost all hard wired too - so you wouldn't be able to do a plug in. (The one you linked to is a hard wire)

Given the cost and faff of replacing, I'd look to see if it's just the element, and replace that.

Mine are standard MFI (remember them?) kitchen units 70cm base to underside of counter; most of the bays have a cupboard and drawer and the cooker one has a bottom shelf fitted 10cm above the base to give a 60cm bay to fit it.

So, if there are 700 mm ones, then I could simply remove that shelf and have one sit on the base instead.

Yes, the one I linked it a hard-wired one, hence the question whether there are 13A ones.

I imagine double ovens are almost all hard wired because the power needs of using both at once would overload a plug in connection... might be wrong though.

prowla

Emmia said:

prowla said:

Emmia said:

prowla said:

Well, yesterday I turned on the oven and the circuit breaker tripped. When I reset it, the oven switched on but didn't heat up, so I guess it's had it.

I've decided to buy a new one to replace it (it's old and I bought it used anyway).

Now, it's a 60cm tall single oven which sits under my hob and is on a shelf 10cm from the base of the unit, so there's the potential to fit a 70cm double (or is it one and a half?) one under there; something like the Belling BI702FP (https://ao.com/product/bi702fp-belling-electric-double-oven-stainless-steel-64413-48.aspx) would be ideal.

However, I've only got a 13A socket, so I'd really like one that will do the same (the hob is on a 16A wired-in connection next to it).

Are there any built-under double ovens which will run off a 13A socket?

If not, I guess I'll be looking at another single one...

I don't think your "niche" is big enough for a double oven - as the oven can't sit directly on the floor - niche dimensions for a single oven are usually 590mm - 600mm high, double ovens need a niche of around 720mm - 800mm high. Looking at specs online, double ovens are almost all hard wired too - so you wouldn't be able to do a plug in. (The one you linked to is a hard wire)

Given the cost and faff of replacing, I'd look to see if it's just the element, and replace that.

Mine are standard MFI (remember them?) kitchen units 70cm base to underside of counter; most of the bays have a cupboard and drawer and the cooker one has a bottom shelf fitted 10cm above the base to give a 60cm bay to fit it.

So, if there are 700 mm ones, then I could simply remove that shelf and have one sit on the base instead.

Yes, the one I linked it a hard-wired one, hence the question whether there are 13A ones.

I imagine double ovens are almost all hard wired because the power needs of using both at once would overload a plug in connection... might be wrong though.

Yes - it's down to the wattage; hence the question.

The one linked 2nd reply one would be OK power-wise, but not for size.

grumbler

Can you not hard-wire a new oven instead?  The cable can certainly bear more than 13A. Even a double socket can do 20A.

I am not sure that this is allowed, but certainly is possible.