Cash for Keys

Comms69

2bFrank said:

That is very true, however what you have to remember the courts are backed up, and whilst they are backed up for evictions they are even more backed up for criminal cases, it would have more than likely been three years before that case went to court, by that time, witnesses have forgotten things, evidence gets lost, CPS make mistakes, and with a good laywer its doubtful I would have lost. Id rather pay a lawyer for defence then lose the money in up-paid rent.

It doesnt excuse what we did though and would hate for genuine tenents to experience something like this, it was a horrible thing to do, but you have to look after yourself. The legal system is truely broken, but whilst it is broken for landlords it is also broken for tenents.

You would've lost, both a civil and a criminal case. It's that simple. There is no need for swathes of evidence. Statement and a video would be enough. 

Put it this way, if I was your tenant, i'd have laughed at you and your mates. laughed all the way to the bank when my civil claim forces your property to be sold to compensate me.

And frankly if you cant afford to go without rent for a few months, then you cant afford to defend the claim. 

Dont suggest people commit criminal offences. Just dont. 

2bFrank

I'm sorry Comm but you have rose tinted glasses for our the legal system. Not a chance you would have won, what video would there be, if you filmed it on a phone id just take the phone off you, all they would have is your word against mine, all I'd say is I made you an offer, you got aggressive, I defended myself and thats that, police wouldnt give it the time of day, you would have a snotty nose and dusty back and ill have my property again.

But I do agree, maybe I shouldnt have suggested other methods especially in this case, the tenent has done nothing wrong, and my advice of big sums of money to get the tenent to leave is the best action.

But you need to get out on the streets more Comms, the legal system is f****d, there has litrially been no better time to be a criminal, thinking the police or legal system will protect you is very niave.

Comms69

2bFrank said:

I'm sorry Comm but you have rose tinted glasses for our the legal system. Not a chance you would have won, what video would their be, if you filmed it on a phone id just take the phone off you, all they would have is your word against mine, all I say is I made you an offer, you got aggressive, I defended myself and thats that, police wouldnt give it the time of day, you would have a snotty nose and dusty back and ill have my property again.

But I do agree, maybe I shouldnt have suggested other methods especially in this case, the tenent has done nothing wrong, and my advice of big sums of money to get the tenent to leave is the best action.

But you need to get out on the streets more Comms, the legal system is f****d, there has litrially been no better time to be a criminal, thinking the police or legal system will protect you is very niave.

Ye ofcourse you would, because you're dead hard arent you. And the police and justice system is so stupid, that you would outsmart it/them.

You're tenants were shy and scared people. 

I wouldnt rely on the police to protect me, i'd use the justice system to screw you over though...

2bFrank

I truly hope you never have to use our police or justice system Comms, you will be serverly disappointed

Comms69

2bFrank said:

I truly hope you never have to use our police or justice system Comms, you will be serverly disappointed

Without being funny, your anecdotal evidence of a criminal offence where no-one reported it, vs the thousands of cases ive seen where illegal eviction cases have cost landlords 5-6 figures suggest otherwise. 

- though i will say it could be more streamlined. 

Comms69

Having seen how many run-ins you have with the law and the lifestyle you lead i doubt any of the above happened anyway...

newsgroupmonkey_

Have to say, 2bFrank is right. The Police won't come out to theft half the time. I don't think they'll be interested in this, sorry.

Comms69

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Have to say, 2bFrank is right. The Police won't come out to theft half the time. I don't think they'll be interested in this, sorry.

Your opinion is misinformed. And in anycase, the police dont have to arrive at the time of the crime to investigate it....

newsgroupmonkey_

Comms69 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Have to say, 2bFrank is right. The Police won't come out to theft half the time. I don't think they'll be interested in this, sorry.

Your opinion is misinformed. And in anycase, the police dont have to arrive at the time of the crime to investigate it....

I'm afraid you're wrong. And I AM the right side of the fence

Comms69

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Comms69 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Have to say, 2bFrank is right. The Police won't come out to theft half the time. I don't think they'll be interested in this, sorry.

Your opinion is misinformed. And in anycase, the police dont have to arrive at the time of the crime to investigate it....

I'm afraid you're wrong. And I AM the right side of the fence

So the police must literally witness a crime and arrest at the scene for an investigation to happen?..... sometime i do wonder how people manage to not put forks into sockets on a daily basis.