Awful weather - typical Brits talk

ArbitraryRandom

Aye, I think I'm getting to the age where I have to think about vitamins/diet and maybe supplements (not getting by on cold pizza for breakfast like I could a decade ago!). I've been seriously considering some vitamin d at the least as they say we're all short of it (especially in winter) but I wonder what plants I can grow to have some healthy vitamin boosting salads and the like (bringing it back to the topic of the thread ) and planning what I want to grow next year. They say you should eat the rainbow, so it might be fun to see if I can grow something from each of the colour groups. 

twopenny

Interesting Abs. I used to be right into this and when I had a couple of ops (voluntary) I did a whole list of what would be healing v what needed to heal. Turned out it was a lot of things I usually ate just in order.

I also grew my own herbs and read up on them (more books ) and used as they did in the old days. There's a lot to be learned there.

Taff lovely rainbow, cheered me up, thanks for posting.

Bluey, stories? I'll have to think through how I can describe on the gardening side as it wasn't my priority at the time + not a lot growing on coral. Maybe a coral garden ??? I enjoyed and didn't look through a lens. I saw peeps missing so much by looking through a lens all the time.

I've just gone and spent pointlessly. Bought a pair of red ceramic wellies with primulas on top from Tescos as my Christmas present to me. Photos later, as usual.

Farway, tape an envelope with a Christmas tip in to the top of your bin. That should do it but I guess you don't feel like giving them a Christmas box.

Dustyevsky

ArbitraryRandom said:

I've been seriously considering some vitamin d at the least as they say we're all short of it (especially in winter) but I wonder what plants I can grow to have some healthy vitamin boosting salads and the like (bringing it back to the topic of the thread ) and planning what I want to grow next year. They say you should eat the rainbow, so it might be fun to see if I can grow something from each of the colour groups. 

 Indeed, natural Vitamin D production is less in the darker days of winter. Good sources, like oily fish, might not be your faves, so supplementation may be an option. Research now shows D3 plays a measurably significant part in fighting infection, and it's suspected C is important too. There was to be a study at Edinburgh University to determine what levels of Vit C are essential for residents in care homes, but despite funding being obtained, the Uni pulled the study. I can't imagine why they'd do that when Vit C capsules only cost pennies.  

Another influential element to have sufficient levels of in winter, is zinc. I'm not recommending licking a galvanised bucket for that! oysters are much better , or if veggie, pumpkin seeds.

Eat the rainbow? You should see my rainbow chard after that frost. It will survive, but it's obviosly had a big shock!

twopenny

Dusty, you've answered your own question.
Why did they pull the research when vit c only costs pence. No profit=no sponsorship.

Toasted pumpkin seeds are delicious! But I've never got an answer to the question - does the heat destroy the vit/minerals?

ArbitraryRandom

twopenny said:

Dusty, you've answered your own question.
Why did they pull the research when vit c only costs pence. No profit=no sponsorship.

Toasted pumpkin seeds are delicious! But I've never got an answer to the question - does the heat destroy the vit/minerals?

Apparently yes: https://www.nutraceuticalbusinessreview.com/news/article_page/Degradation_of_vitamins_probiotics_and_other_active_ingredients_caused_by_exposure_to_heat_water_and_sunlight/145924

10 minutes at 85-95 degrees destroys the vit c in fortified flours (so I assume other things as well). 

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that water soluble vitamins are badly damaged by cooking but fat soluble less so -  (not completely safe, but better) - so A and D in heat treated milk do relatively okay but B and C in things like spinach and broccoli degrade a lot when cooked. 

Dustyevsky

twopenny said:

Dusty, you've answered your own question.
Why did they pull the research when vit c only costs pence. No profit=no sponsorship.

Sponsorship was there, though. I said “despite funding being obtained.”

I think the answer goes deeper, perhaps linked to the very small cost of meeting nutritional needs. After all, if nutritional deficiencies in elderly people could be mitigated for 10p a day, there might be no need for expensive alternatives, like 'health drinks' etc. 

Mind you, I might prefer the Kombucha, and allegedly, “Gu*nn*ss is good for you!”   I don't like toasted nuts...or sit too close to the wood burner!

It was so soggy today, all I managed to do was replace a rotten hen house window and pot up a few of my very late sown wallflowers. The -4c seems to have done no harm in the polytunnel, where I buried overwintering salvias and similar tenderish things under a big heap of old fleece. More rain tonight, but tomorrow seems to have improved, so it could be a proper garden day after all! 

YoungBlueEyes

I am not a doctor, this is not medical advice. I get my VitD from eggs - once a week I have 4 boiled eggs with 4 crumpets, 2 crumpets have peanut butter on them (for the oils or whatever nuts contains) and 2 with marmite for the b vits. (The marmite thing I got off QI) If you can stomach it, a tsp of marmite every other day will do you wonders, unless you've a prob with salt. VitC is a good healer all round. Years ago I went to the doc in Ireland for a thing, and he said "are ye still at the fags are ye? Well then you need to do what I do and eat an orange every night" and I have done. That was 25+ (:o ) years ago! Yes we were both sat smoking at the time A few brazils and walnuts and almonds and stuff in yogurt in the morning is good for zinc and ..selenium...? If it's natural plain yogurt it does the gut bacteria thing too. She said, with absolutely no training or knowledge or degrees or anything  

Speaking of toasted nuts, thanks for the warm front whoever sent it up this way. It's 6' out there, and only dropped to 2 overnight. Somebody was right yesterday, it poured in the rain non-stop and it's still raining now. NE breeze but it doesn't feel too cold with it. I need to have a tramp round Shawshank Patch, see what's living or dying or what. I'll tell you what's not dying - the goddam squirrels!

Dustyevsky

Our warm front is cool, but it seems there's nothing preventing a full-on outdoor day, now the early rain's lifted.

No news of any import, especially not the secret private meeting in parliament yesterday....so here's a horse:

 I decided not to clone out all the extraneous stuff on this one!

pink_poppy

Talking of horses - we passed by The Kelpies at the weekend (rubbish pic as we were doing 70mph at the time)  



Definitely worth a visit to see them up close.

https://www.thehelix.co.uk/

YoungBlueEyes

Himself’s ’orrible sister would like that horse Dusty, bet it’s kinda spendy though… 

I’ve not seen the Kelpies in real life, but if I did bucket lists they’d be on it  

Shawshank Patch is all having a go at dying on me. Honestly it’s like a conspiracy out there. I know we had that bit of bad weather but it was hardly all that cold and wasn’t long in melting either. Too many dead-looking things to take pictures of…. *sigh* I’m just hoping they have another conflab and decide to get growing again. And something’s been eating my beloved Lamb’s Ears  :'( 

It has stopped raining though, been dry for nearly half an hour now!