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Is my Ovo energy really expensive? Or is my usage high?

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  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    If it's an electric shower, it will be obvious, as it will have it's own dedicated radial circuit from the CU (hopefully marked with a helpful sticker that says 'shower'.) It should also have a dedicated RCD, if the main board does not.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Gerry1
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    edited 25 September 2020 at 4:05PM
    Helen28 said:
    Is it just me but how can someone not know whether they have an electric shower or not?
    After all it usually just has one water pipe for the water and the temperature is varied by adjusting the water flow rate.
    Also if it is electric it should have an isolating switch and you can't have a shower if the electricity is off.
    Whereas if the water is heated by gas from a combi or a hot water tank regardless if heated by gas or electricity(immersion) it has a mixer valve to regulate the water temperature and flow rate and 2 water pipes going ro it.
    Is it really that crazy? I don't make a habit of turning my electricity off, and it's not like my first instinct during a power cut is "quick check the shower is working!" 
    Anyone who doesn't want to waste money needs to know the basics of their property's energy supplies and heating arrangements, including:
    • How the rooms and water are heated (which appliances and by which fuel);
    • Whether any heating appliances need a multi rate supply such as E7;
    • Whether the immersion heater and room heaters are on a 24/7 supply or a switched cheap rate supply;
    • The electricity tariff name and whether it's multi-rate;
    • The electricity price(s) per kWh and the standing charge;
    • When any cheap rates apply;
    • Whether the shower water is taken from the hot tank or heated instantaneously by electricity;
    • The gas tariff name; and
    • The gas cost(s) per kWh and the standing charge.
    It's not as complicated as it may first appear, it's really no different to looking at the price labels before popping the champagne and caviar into you supermarket trolley.

    The risk is that if you take the attitude that 'oh well, everything is what it is' then it may well be a case of 'oh well, the mega-bill is what it is'.
  • MalMonroe
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    Helen28 said:
    Is it just me but how can someone not know whether they have an electric shower or not?
    After all it usually just has one water pipe for the water and the temperature is varied by adjusting the water flow rate.
    Also if it is electric it should have an isolating switch and you can't have a shower if the electricity is off.
    Whereas if the water is heated by gas from a combi or a hot water tank regardless if heated by gas or electricity(immersion) it has a mixer valve to regulate the water temperature and flow rate and 2 water pipes going ro it.
    Is it really that crazy? I don't make a habit of turning my electricity off, and it's not like my first instinct during a power cut is "quick check the shower is working!" 
    It IS a bit strange that someone doesn't know whether they have an electric shower or not. There's no need to turn the electricity off, and that's not what Helen28 means. You just turn your shower switch (which enables you to use the shower and is sometimes inside, sometimes outside the bathroom) on before use. Every single shower that's installed has one - so there's really no need for sarcasm. And then you turn it off when you've finished. Usually electric showers have the name of the manufacturer on the front, too. 

    If a shower's water supply comes from the boiler, it's a totally different set up. And it isn't difficult to tell the difference.
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  • MalMonroe
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    Helen28 said:
    Is it just me but how can someone not know whether they have an electric shower or not?
    After all it usually just has one water pipe for the water and the temperature is varied by adjusting the water flow rate.
    Also if it is electric it should have an isolating switch and you can't have a shower if the electricity is off.
    Whereas if the water is heated by gas from a combi or a hot water tank regardless if heated by gas or electricity(immersion) it has a mixer valve to regulate the water temperature and flow rate and 2 water pipes going ro it.
    It's not just you, I thought the very same thing. 
    Please note - taken from the Forum Rules and amended for my own personal use (with thanks) : It is up to you to investigate, check, double-check and check yet again before you make any decisions or take any action based on any information you glean from any of my posts. Although I do carry out careful research before posting and never intend to mislead or supply out-of-date or incorrect information, please do not rely 100% on what you are reading. Verify everything in order to protect yourself as you are responsible for any action you consequently take.
  • Utility point giving away £200 is a strong sign that they're struggling and need an influx of customers to provide them with extra cash. If you want to avoid joining an energy supplier on the brink of going bust then I'd strongly advise not to take up this offer and instead look for a cheaper deal elsewhere.

    The cheapest tariff on the market for Dual Fuel customers is currently around £840
    The cheapest Utility Point tariff is currently around £980
  • Carrot007
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    MalMonroe said:
    It IS a bit strange that someone doesn't know whether they have an electric shower or not. There's no need to turn the electricity off, and that's not what Helen28 means. You just turn your shower switch (which enables you to use the shower and is sometimes inside, sometimes outside the bathroom) on before use. Every single shower that's installed has one - so there's really no need for sarcasm. And then you turn it off when you've finished. Usually electric showers have the name of the manufacturer on the front, too. 

    If a shower's water supply comes from the boiler, it's a totally different set up. And it isn't difficult to tell the difference.

    No it is very strange. if they do not know then they have not got one.

    An electric shower looks like an electric shower. Has a power light a pull switch to isolate (or a switch outside the room as I did in my last house). Has power setting 1 or 2, 2 make it "dribble" water but is usually required ;-)

    We can safely assume people who don't know have never seen one ;-) (or just not that interested in such thing, which is a shame really, these things are important if you want to save money).

  • bristolleedsfan
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    edited 25 September 2020 at 7:08PM
    Utility point giving away £200
    Utility Point are currently only offering £100 to existing customer who refers someone, anyone signing up and switches via friend link does not get anything from Utility Point bar a more expensive tariff than can get with Utility Point if fully search a comparison site, that cheaper Tariff does not show when get a quote via U.P website.

  • Helen28
    Helen28 Posts: 119 Forumite
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    If, like me, you have a combi boiler, you never run out of hot water for your shower,
     so not running out of  hot water does not show whether or not the shower is electric.
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