M6 toll barrier

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  • williamgriffin
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    If motorway regs apply then how come you're allowed to reverse?
    If you can't proceed forward because of a broken down vehicle in front of your car or a non working toll booth, would this cover it:
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1982/1163/pdfs/uksi_19821163_en.pdf

    Restriction on reversing

    8.  No vehicle on a motorway shall be driven or moved backwards except in so far as it is necessary to back the vehicle to enable it to proceed forwards or to be connected to any other vehicle.

    as you might have to back up to allow you to then proceed forward.
    Except neither apply in the case of the op.
  • Day_Of_The_Doris
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    If motorway regs apply then how come you're allowed to reverse?
    If you can't proceed forward because of a broken down vehicle in front of your car or a non working toll booth, would this cover it:
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1982/1163/pdfs/uksi_19821163_en.pdf

    Restriction on reversing

    8.  No vehicle on a motorway shall be driven or moved backwards except in so far as it is necessary to back the vehicle to enable it to proceed forwards or to be connected to any other vehicle.

    as you might have to back up to allow you to then proceed forward.
    Except neither apply in the case of the op.
    Why not?
    Depending on how long the car in front had been stationary, it might be reasonable to assume that it had broken down in which case backing up to then allow you to proceed forward would be exactly what the Op did and something that is allowed to be done.
  • Scrapit
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    Scrapit said:
    pramsay13 said:

    Maybe be a bit more patient next time.
    Odd comment considering the OP gave no real indication of how long they had waited, other than to say it was long enough they thought the other car had broken down. 

    The OP could've waited several minutes for all we know.  How long would you suggest they wait in order to not be considered (in your opinion) impatient?
    Long enough to think that reversing would be ok. That, for what its worth, would be a long time.
    That's still not a specific length of time and purely subjective.
    Yes, maybe the word loooooooong is more helpful. As in really looooooooong. 
  • MX5huggy
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    I doubt anything will come of this. There’s not an automatic system to detect the offence (like speeding or using a bus lane).
  • Car_54
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    If motorway regs apply then how come you're allowed to reverse?
    If you can't proceed forward because of a broken down vehicle in front of your car or a non working toll booth, would this cover it:
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1982/1163/pdfs/uksi_19821163_en.pdf

    Restriction on reversing

    8.  No vehicle on a motorway shall be driven or moved backwards except in so far as it is necessary to back the vehicle to enable it to proceed forwards or to be connected to any other vehicle.

    as you might have to back up to allow you to then proceed forward.
    Except neither apply in the case of the op.
    Why not?
    Depending on how long the car in front had been stationary, it might be reasonable to assume that it had broken down in which case backing up to then allow you to proceed forward would be exactly what the Op did and something that is allowed to be done.
    Rather than assume, why not get out of the car and ask t.he driver in front?
  • George_Michael
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    Car_54 said:
    Rather than assume, why not get out of the car and ask t.he driver in front?
    If the area in question is classed as a motorway (I don't know the area so have no idea) then wouldn't you be breaking the law by exiting your vehicle whilst it's in a live traffic lane?
  • Car_54
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    Car_54 said:
    Rather than assume, why not get out of the car and ask t.he driver in front?
    If the area in question is classed as a motorway (I don't know the area so have no idea) then wouldn't you be breaking the law by exiting your vehicle whilst it's in a live traffic lane?
    Possibly, but so would reversing unnecessarily.
  • Scrapit
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    Car_54 said:
    Rather than assume, why not get out of the car and ask t.he driver in front?
    If the area in question is classed as a motorway (I don't know the area so have no idea) then wouldn't you be breaking the law by exiting your vehicle whilst it's in a live traffic lane?
    If broken down would it be fair to expect the driver of the broken down vehicle to very probably get out at some point during a breakdown?
  • George_Michael
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    Scrapit said:
    If broken down would it be fair to expect the driver of the broken down vehicle to very probably get out at some point during a breakdown?
    Of course, but as the discussion isn't about the driver of the vehicle that was suspected to have broken down but a car behind it, what is the relevance of what the other driver does?

  • Scrapit
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    Scrapit said:
    If broken down would it be fair to expect the driver of the broken down vehicle to very probably get out at some point during a breakdown?
    Of course, but as the discussion isn't about the driver of the vehicle that was suspected to have broken down but a car behind it, what is the relevance of what the other driver does?

    Because what that driver does is the only key to the OPs decision making process. The choices the OP made were a direct response to the third parties actions or lack there of.
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