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Possible "localised" subsidence on survey - How to Proceed?

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We've had a homebuyers survey result back and amid the 44 pages of mostly mundane/routine issues, there is a reference to possible "localised" subsidence, probably caused by a collapsed drain (based on damp in that area), and so advises that a CCTV inspection and structural engineer's report should be obtained.
Having sought clarification, the gist is that, assuming it is the drain, once fixed it's unlikely to be a major issue, any washed away soil probably just need backfilling and then the hairline cracks filling in. As a localised issue it should not affect insurance, future resale value, etc. However, this needs confirmation from a structural engineer, and they might need to monitor the cracks for a year or two.
Can anyone advise on the usual protocol in this situation? Presumably we would pay for the drain survey and if the collapsed drain is confirmed would need to negotiate resolving that with the vendor. However, regarding the possible subsidence, should this go back to the vendor's buildings insurance to investigate (and us get a second opinion to confirm it was sorted)? If it did need monitoring, if we decided to proceed, would it be normal to expect some sort of indemnity from the vendor and/or their insurance in case it turned out to be a more significant issue requiring underpinning or other works? Would a mortgage lender likely be spooked if this was the case or if they notice it on their valuation?
Having sought clarification, the gist is that, assuming it is the drain, once fixed it's unlikely to be a major issue, any washed away soil probably just need backfilling and then the hairline cracks filling in. As a localised issue it should not affect insurance, future resale value, etc. However, this needs confirmation from a structural engineer, and they might need to monitor the cracks for a year or two.
Can anyone advise on the usual protocol in this situation? Presumably we would pay for the drain survey and if the collapsed drain is confirmed would need to negotiate resolving that with the vendor. However, regarding the possible subsidence, should this go back to the vendor's buildings insurance to investigate (and us get a second opinion to confirm it was sorted)? If it did need monitoring, if we decided to proceed, would it be normal to expect some sort of indemnity from the vendor and/or their insurance in case it turned out to be a more significant issue requiring underpinning or other works? Would a mortgage lender likely be spooked if this was the case or if they notice it on their valuation?
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If you decide to continue with the purchase, you will need to negotiate with your vendors. They may refuse to do this work, but nobody on here can tell you what their response will be. If you decide to continue with the purchase, the risk lies with you once you own the property. You won't be the first on here to hope that their vendor will insure them against future structural problems, but it just doesn't work like that.
Have you had your valuation survey/mortage offer yet?
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Falafels said:
...You won't be the first on here to hope that their vendor will insure them against future structural problems, but it just doesn't work like that.
Have you had your valuation survey/mortage offer yet?
The mortgage company doesn't send out surveyors, however there is a valuer booked to visit soon. I'm assuming it's unlikely a valuer would notice, however presumably if there is an issue it will need to be disclosed to the lender at some stage.0 -
It sounds as though you're already confident as to how the whole process works....0
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Falafels said:It sounds as though you're already confident as to how the whole process works....0
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The mortgage company didn't notice anything on the valuation, approved the mortgage and remain oblivious. We arranged a drain survey which did identify a drainage issue, but inspections by two different structural engineers (at our expense) and the vendors' insurance company over the course of the next three months eventually ruled out subsidence and explained the cracks without further monitoring being needed. Once this was concluded, the vendors arranged for the drains to be repaired and the cracks to be filled.0
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