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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    Thanks for the help. I've just done some research and I've been slapped with 6 points on my license and £600  fine + fees for not providing info on a driver in December 2019.  I moved out in September 2019 and changed my details for everything, insurance, driving license, tax etc but not my V5C foolishly.

    I'll have to call the court tomorrow I suppose
    Then as not changing your V5C details is an offence and you can be fined up to £1000 , get it done online asap

    It's also why this has happened as well , because it's not just private parking companies that use that data , it's councils and police etc too. I doubt that NPM have anything to do with it , although there may be cases in their name too , letters , LBC,s , court claims etc

    This is a direct consequence of failure to update the V5C , plus the fact that you would expect the DVLA to change all details from a data subject , but they don't do that , so that needs complaining about as well. At the moment you have to tell them twice , once for the driving licence , plus once for each V5C as well
  • BrownTrout
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    An expensive lesson learned 
  • BrownTrout
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    edited 20 September 2020 at 5:39PM
    Your cases was nothing to do with npm
    You can update v5 and driving licence online so no excuse these days
  • Thanks all. My initial thought was that it was something to do with NPM but looks like I was wrong. It's one of those things- I changed my driving license + insurance etc but the v5c just slipped my mind completely. 

    Hopefully they'll be understanding.....

    😩😩
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 20 September 2020 at 11:32PM
    I partly blame the DVLA for causing all this distress, and for not complying with the DPA Principles and updating all records about a data subject who they KNOW has moved. 

    Honestly, I think someone should report the DVLA to the ICO for this and see what they think. 

    The DVLA's excuse is that V5Cs are handled by a different Dept than Driving Licences.  I think they breach the DPA Principles.  
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  • Umkomaas
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    I partly blame the DVLA for causing all this distress, and for not complying with the DPA Principles and updating all records about a data subject who they KNOW has moved. 

    Honestly, I think someone should report the DVLA to the ICO for this and see what they think. 

    The DVLA's excuse is that V5Cs are handled by a different Dept than Driving Licences.  I think they breach the DPA Principles.  
    It would be a fairly simple further line added to the driving licence change of address notification - 'Please provide the VRM(s) of any vehicle(s) of which you are the Registered Keeper and which should now be registered to your new address'. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • You can perform a stat dec to state you knew nothing of the offence, get it reset and have a chance to enter a plea. Please not guilty to FtF (otherwise no bloody point doing the SD) and ON THE DAY, IF YOU WERE THE DRIVER, you can ask to "do a deal" - admit to the underlying offence, for which they want to convict you for but cannot, if they agree to drop the FtF
    This assumes simple speeding - nothing excessive, no dangerous driving etc. 
  • You can perform a stat dec to state you knew nothing of the offence, get it reset and have a chance to enter a plea. Please not guilty to FtF (otherwise no bloody point doing the SD) and ON THE DAY, IF YOU WERE THE DRIVER, you can ask to "do a deal" - admit to the underlying offence, for which they want to convict you for but cannot, if they agree to drop the FtF
    This assumes simple speeding - nothing excessive, no dangerous driving etc. 
    Than you. Sorry for my stupidity, what does FtF stand for? Failure to something?
  • KeithP
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    edited 22 September 2020 at 11:53PM
    FtF = Failure to Furnish.

    If the RK fails to give out the driver's details, they have to take the rap themselves.

    Google Failure to Furnish for more comprehensive answers.
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