Being forced to work hours that others refuse. Is this discrimination?

TELLIT01

RedHitman said:

I can't prove it, no. Which is why I'm asking if I'm using the right word. But there is definitely a bias towards the female staff being able to dictate their working hours.

There seems to be an element of dumping on the people who protest least and that is unfortunately common in the workplace.  Simply ask the question about why, when everybody has the same contract t&c, so few are being forced to work late.

adamp87

I’m not sure on this but you may have a case against the fact over 5 years this is the first time you are working those hours.

I’d speak to your employer state why you are upset, how your schedules been for the past X years and see what happens.

As others have said most of the time people who kick off/make noise get what they want to be fair.

Sea_Shell

Personally I'd spin this round the other way.

How much notice do you normally have to give for holidays?   Then give appropriate notice that for the week beginning X, you will unfortunately be  unable to work after 8pm, and trust that alternative cover can be put in place.

KatrinaWaves

Sea_Shell said:

Personally I'd spin this round the other way.

How much notice do you normally have to give for holidays?   Then give appropriate notice that for the week beginning X, you will unfortunately be  unable to work after 8pm, and trust that alternative cover can be put in place.

What has this got to do with holidays? 

You can’t give notice to opt out of your contract. Unless you’re opting out of your job. 

Thrugelmir

RedHitman said:

Thrugelmir said:

As an observation sounds as if your young children go to bed rather late. If anything some late shifts are to your advantage. As you are working when the children should be asleep. What hours does your partner work? 

. To finish at 10pm would mean I'm not in bed until 11pm which is just far too late.

Finding another job maybe the answer then.  The business isn't run for peoples personal convenience. There are many people who would happily work the hours to earn a living. 

Sea_Shell

KatrinaWaves said:

Sea_Shell said:

Personally I'd spin this round the other way.

How much notice do you normally have to give for holidays?   Then give appropriate notice that for the week beginning X, you will unfortunately be  unable to work after 8pm, and trust that alternative cover can be put in place.

What has this got to do with holidays? 

You can’t give notice to opt out of your contract. Unless you’re opting out of your job. 

I only mentioned holidays as a guide as to what appropriate notice should be given for not being able to work a particular shift. (Or overtime)


The other employees seem to be able to opt out regularly (same contract?), So I was giving OP an option of doing this in a reasonable way.


If they were requesting holiday, then someone WOULD have to cover the hours.

KatrinaWaves

Someone else is covering the hours though. OP only works 25 hours and also mentions shifts starting at 7am. So he’s probably not even doing half the late nights! 

ToxicWomble

Interesting thread and the advice is spot on - wonder how it would have played out had the OP been a woman and the other employees men though ?

KatrinaWaves

ToxicWomble said:

Interesting thread and the advice is spot on - wonder how it would have played out had the OP been a woman and the other employees men though ?

Exactly the same. 

The OP states he is Male, and that the people who have refused are all female. He does not state at any point that only men are expected to work the lates. I imagine from the 2/3 other people working lates that some are female.

This is not a gender issue. He has half tried to imply it by bringing up that he has children and ‘is a parent’ but hasn’t mentioned anything about childcare issues or gender discrimination.

Most people fit into the characteristic of Male or female. It doesn’t mean every slight in their life, or ‘unfair treatment’  is due to that. 

Comms69

KatrinaWaves said:

ToxicWomble said:

Interesting thread and the advice is spot on - wonder how it would have played out had the OP been a woman and the other employees men though ?

Exactly the same. 

The OP states he is Male, and that the people who have refused are all female. He does not state at any point that only men are expected to work the lates. I imagine from the 2/3 other people working lates that some are female.

This is not a gender issue. He has half tried to imply it by bringing up that he has children and ‘is a parent’ but hasn’t mentioned anything about childcare issues or gender discrimination.

Most people fit into the characteristic of Male or female. It doesn’t mean every slight in their life, or ‘unfair treatment’  is due to that. 

And regardless we all fit into all (except disability, pregnancy and marriage) characteristics as defined by the law.