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Adding another floor onto a bungalow under new planning laws - permitted development?

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  • Doozergirl
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    eve824 said:
    NRMartin said:
    eve824 said:
    I didn't realise there were new PD rules - I've just taken a look and it seems you have to apply for a certificate of lawful development which the council can say no to on several grounds, so it would seem it's not 'true' PD in that sense? More a half way house (excuse the pun) as I presume the certificate is easier to get and cheaper?

    Very interesting though. Although in our case as we want to go up and out I imagine it won't be covered under PD.
    Yes I think that does seem to be the case - just done some more research and looks like you have to get prior approval as per the below I found:
    • the impact on the amenity of adjoining premises including overlooking, privacy and the loss of light
    • external appearance, including the design and architectural features of the principal elevation and side elevations fronting a highway
    • air traffic and defence asset impacts and certain protected views
    Yeah, so it kind of makes me think 'what is the point' but I guess it must be an easier, quicker and cheaper process than full PP
    Sometines Permitted Development Rights are more generous than an authority's own guidance.  In the cases of additional storeys, I can see that the PD might be easier. 

    I think it's absurd.  On a detached bungalow, not so much, but if you see the crud that already gets put on top of houses, this is just asking for carbunkles. 

    Imagine raising a semi-detached house up by an entire storey?! 
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • Sometines Permitted Development Rights are more generous than an authority's own guidance.  In the cases of additional storeys, I can see that the PD might be easier. 

    I think it's absurd.  On a detached bungalow, not so much, but if you see the crud that already gets put on top of houses, this is just asking for carbunkles. 

    Imagine raising a semi-detached house up by an entire storey?! 
    I'm kind of inclined to agree with you there...some of it does look like it could end up going wrong but at least there is that safety net of having to get the "Approval" rather than full planning from your LPA i guess
  • eve824 said:
    Yeah, so it kind of makes me think 'what is the point' but I guess it must be an easier, quicker and cheaper process than full PP
    I one article it just described it as permission but fast-tracked which seems to be what it is. 
  • eve824
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    eve824 said:
    NRMartin said:
    eve824 said:
    I didn't realise there were new PD rules - I've just taken a look and it seems you have to apply for a certificate of lawful development which the council can say no to on several grounds, so it would seem it's not 'true' PD in that sense? More a half way house (excuse the pun) as I presume the certificate is easier to get and cheaper?

    Very interesting though. Although in our case as we want to go up and out I imagine it won't be covered under PD.
    Yes I think that does seem to be the case - just done some more research and looks like you have to get prior approval as per the below I found:
    • the impact on the amenity of adjoining premises including overlooking, privacy and the loss of light
    • external appearance, including the design and architectural features of the principal elevation and side elevations fronting a highway
    • air traffic and defence asset impacts and certain protected views
    Yeah, so it kind of makes me think 'what is the point' but I guess it must be an easier, quicker and cheaper process than full PP
    Sometines Permitted Development Rights are more generous than an authority's own guidance.  In the cases of additional storeys, I can see that the PD might be easier. 

    I think it's absurd.  On a detached bungalow, not so much, but if you see the crud that already gets put on top of houses, this is just asking for carbunkles. 

    Imagine raising a semi-detached house up by an entire storey?! 
    I entirely agree with you, there could be some really ugly extensions done under this. In my case, it would be raising a detatched bungalow to a 2 storey house (incidentally, all the other bungalows in the row bar one other have done this so I think I would have a fair chance using traditional PP route anyway) so it wouldn't be awful. It would actually fit in better with the rest of the street! 
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