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Is it possible to build a driveway with these electrical/telephone boxes in front of the property?

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  • davidmcn
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    edited 13 September 2020 at 11:52AM
    Also bear in mind the planning restrictions for paving over the front garden, irrespective of how you're accessing it.
  • Mickey666
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    Looking on the bright side, if those boxes are supporting FTTC then the house will likely have a fast internet connection ;)
  • Mickey666
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    AdrianC said:
    The house doesn't actually own the driveway external to their boundary. It is still part of the highway so no contract with the neighbour needed. 
    It certainly is to drive over their land. And there's no other way to get to that parking space...

    The only way to get to the yellow parking space is via the green. You cannot drive on the red, only on the blue.

    If there's an RoW over the green enshrined in their LR registration, that would include a restriction on blocking the RoW... Which means it can't be used for parking.
    A classic example of how an informal agreement between sensible neighbours can work well enough but a rigorous legal arrangement is not actually possible.  
    Parking has always been an important issue for me and I’ve never lived anywhere without off street parking for my cars and visitors, so I’d be passing on this particular house.   I have many friends who don’t know where that are going to be able to park when they get home and sometime end up with a 10 minute walk.  It’s ludicrous.
  • AdrianC
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    Mickey666 said:
    AdrianC said:
    The house doesn't actually own the driveway external to their boundary. It is still part of the highway so no contract with the neighbour needed. 
    It certainly is to drive over their land. And there's no other way to get to that parking space...

    The only way to get to the yellow parking space is via the green. You cannot drive on the red, only on the blue.

    If there's an RoW over the green enshrined in their LR registration, that would include a restriction on blocking the RoW... Which means it can't be used for parking.
    A classic example of how an informal agreement between sensible neighbours can work well enough...
    And an "informal agreement between sensible neighbours" is all very well and good until one neighbour changes for a non-sensible one.

    I'd certainly not be buying the house with the green parking area.
  • Mickey666
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    Agreed.  Probably neither of them actually.
  • user1168934
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    edited 13 September 2020 at 3:24PM
    Mickey666 said:
    Agreed.  Probably neither of them actually.
    AdrianC said:I'd certainly not be buying the house with the green parking area.
    It just so happens that the one with green parking area is also on the market and based on the comments this morning I was thinking may be I should consider buying that one instead. So, assuming the neighbour has no RoW over the green driveway, please explain why buying the green one is a bad idea?

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  • davidmcn
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    Mickey666 said:
    Agreed.  Probably neither of them actually.
    AdrianC said:I'd certainly not be buying the house with the green parking area.
    It just so happens that the one with green parking area is also on the market and based on the comments this morning I was thinking may be I should consider buying that one instead. So, assuming the neighbour has no RoW over the green driveway, please explain why buying the green one is a bad idea?
    Well, how much parking space do they have left, once they've allowed enough room for the neighbours to get past (in order to comply with whatever the informal understanding is)? Shared driveways in general have plenty of scope for neighbour arguments, even if they are properly regulated by the title deeds.
  • blue_max_3
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    Buy them both, problem solved.
  • AdrianC
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    Mickey666 said:
    Agreed.  Probably neither of them actually.
    AdrianC said:I'd certainly not be buying the house with the green parking area.
    It just so happens that the one with green parking area is also on the market and based on the comments this morning I was thinking may be I should consider buying that one instead. So, assuming the neighbour has no RoW over the green driveway, please explain why buying the green one is a bad idea?
    Because you might as well ring the doorbell of next door, say "Hello, I'm your new neighbour", and punch them in the face...

    It's got "neighbour dispute" written all over it in massive flashing neon letters.
  • Barny1979
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    Visit the Council's website, they should have guidance for the criteria of putting a dropped kerb in.
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