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  • photome
    photome Posts: 16,680 Forumite
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    sweetsand said:
    sweetsand said:

    I hope it all works out OP but reject the car.  
    The OP has simply not given us sufficient information to establish that rights to reject are available to the OP as a route forward.
    • paintwork had not been touched up = visible prior to purchase, not grounds to reject
    • stone chips visible  = visible prior to purchase, not grounds to reject
    • it had not been valeted seats were filthy = visible prior to purchase, not grounds to reject
    • they hadn’t put a mot on it = able to be verified prior to purchase, not grounds to reject if there is any valid MOT remaining at purchase.  If there was no MOT at all, the OP should not have driven out of the garage FULL STOP.
    • a bulge in the tyre which could of had a blow out and they were aware of this = may have been visible at the time of purchase, may have developed on the drive home and therefore not grounds to reject.  How does the OP establish the second part of this claim "and they were aware of this"?
    Even if there may be grounds to reject the vehicle, the dealer should be given the opportunity to resolve first and 'resolving' a bad tyre is easy.

    Sadly, it seems as though the OP has simply purchased a car with no proper consideration or due diligence and now showing buyer's remorse?  What is the resolution the OP would actually like?
    For you, possibly not. For me, having read the OP, I have more than enough info to state that the car should be rejected if that is what they want. 
    On what grounds
  • Dr_Crypto
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    He knew at the time the car was a lemon but still took it. The opportunity to walk away has gone. 
  • Mercdriver
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    edited 12 September 2020 at 4:27PM
    The lesson for everyone here is one many people are falling foul of not doing due diligence before purchase as a result of the pandemic.  Some people/places are unwilling to allow test drives and contact free purchases are being actively encouraged.  While this might seem protective, this means that as a buyer you have to be doubly careful about due diligence. Check, check, check again.  And if any doubt, check again.  If still in doubt, walk away. 

    A dangerous tyre fault like a bulge should have been spotted if it existed, and this would be the argument of the dealer as to why it can't have been there: because any reasonable person would have checked the car and seen it before driving it, so it must have happened after it left his care.  Because of course, he wouldn't be able to live with himself if he allowed a car to go out in that poor state of safety.
  • AdrianC
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    The lesson for everyone here is one many people are falling foul of not doing due diligence before purchase as a result of the pandemic.

    Not even that simple...
    ...when I went to pick it up the paintwork had not been touched up and there were stone chips visible it had not been valeted seats were filthy as I was part exchanging my car and I had stopped and changed insurance and travelled 63 miles I felt obliged to take the car...
    The OP saw the issues before completing the purchase on-site (so DSR doesn't apply), and took it anyway because of the minor hassle factor.
  • Mercdriver
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    AdrianC said:
    The lesson for everyone here is one many people are falling foul of not doing due diligence before purchase as a result of the pandemic.

    Not even that simple...
    ...when I went to pick it up the paintwork had not been touched up and there were stone chips visible it had not been valeted seats were filthy as I was part exchanging my car and I had stopped and changed insurance and travelled 63 miles I felt obliged to take the car...
    The OP saw the issues before completing the purchase on-site (so DSR doesn't apply), and took it anyway because of the minor hassle factor.
    Well, yes. it was a more general comment because there has been a massive trend in people not doing proper checks.  OP can't have checked the tyres before purchase, or else surely he wouldn't have taken the car without a replacement tyre.  Hence it being in the dealer's favour.  If the OP states he checked the tyres, then it can't have been present at time of purchase.  
  • I checked the mot online and it says it has one it is a large dealer in Peterborough and they have fiddled the mot any way long story short what they have done is illegal and a criminal offence you can report them to DVSA
  • Mercdriver
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    I checked the mot online and it says it has one it is a large dealer in Peterborough and they have fiddled the mot any way long story short what they have done is illegal and a criminal offence you can report them to DVSA
    Did you check the tyres before purchase, and again before accepting delivery?  A reasonable person would.  That's what the dealer would say in court.  Therefore the basis of probability is likely to be that the bulge was not present on delivery to you.  You cannot refute it as you didn't check it.  If you did why did you drive an unsafe car away?
  • AdrianC
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    I checked the mot online and it says it has one it is a large dealer in Peterborough and they have fiddled the mot any way long story short what they have done is illegal and a criminal offence you can report them to DVSA
    On Friday, they hadn't put an MOT on it.
    Now they have, but it's bent.
    Can you clarify, please?
  • Grumpy_chap
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    I assume the OP must have verified that there was an MOT on the vehicle (even if not a long one remaining) before leaving, otherwise it would be against the rules to drive home without a valid MOT.  The garage will also have taxed the car for the OP and I understand this requires a current MOT.
    So, the query about MOT must be, not whether there is an MOT, but how long is remaining on the MOT.
  • sweetsand
    sweetsand Posts: 1,826 Forumite
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    I checked the mot online and it says it has one it is a large dealer in Peterborough and they have fiddled the mot any way long story short what they have done is illegal and a criminal offence you can report them to DVSA
    Hiya OP
    Apologies, but you have confused me re the mot. How did you become aware that
    it was "fiddled"?  
    What are your plans re this nasty car?
    I wish you ATB
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