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Comms69

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

On what basis?

Comms69

theartfullodger said:

MOST UK adults are on receipt of one benefit or other, growing since covid19.

About 1 million working people get some HB or UC/HE to assist with rent.

Artful: landlord, 72, in receipt of 6 benefits you generous taxpayers you.

You're welcome

Tenant, 35, in receipt of 0 benefits

mattyprice4004

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

You could easily prove / argue that on balance you wanted to move back into the house or sell it, as being a landlord isn't profitable anymore due to the adjustments you'd have to make. 

They can't force you to spend money - at the end of the day, as with any business if it's no longer profitable you ultimately have the decision in your hands to 'shut up shop' and sell up / pack it in. 

sweetsand

ameliarate said:

sweetsand said:

onwards&upwards said:

If you are going to be a landlord reluctantly, please please don’t be one.

Some times there is no option as the property someone has been left in a will may have sitting tenants in there with a contract of anything from a few months to a few years.
OP, if you are not sure, do you have letting agents they are very helpful, good ones that is

I’m in a similar position to this and even if I sold the property what do you do with the money given current  interest rates? I would highly recommend good agents as I knew nothing about renting a property and there are all sorts of regs you need to adhere to. 

Thank you and quiet a few people are in a position like you as seen on tv progs like that.
Yes, why should you sell up and possibly get next to nothing in interest when atm you may be getting 10% before txes/letting agent fees/insurance etc.
It's nice to see other nice posters that are doing the right thing where they are not sure as renting can be a minefield with some not so good T's trying it on with LL's that a nice, honest letting agent is worth their money. 
Some letting agents appear cheap but when things go wrong that is when it counts
One agent we used to use, it was in the small print but we did not read it - as the repalcement built in oven cost more than 400 quid they charged an extra 10% for "overseeing the works."
The one we use now and had in the past, down to earht lady as far as agents go she is ok - she taught us a lot re insurance etc - and has in our proerties so far got us decnet people we do not even meet up with them. We worked hard for our home, retals, etc and are giving someone a nice, clean home to live in a slightly below averge rentals and as all of them are ok, we;ve not raised rents for two years.
Thank you for your honest post and rember, it is not just the income you are getting house prices do go up and you are giving someone a nice place to stay in
x

Scottishgal87

Comms69 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

On what basis?

Oh didn’t you know? @sweetsand has rewritten all legislation in the U.K. They are such experts in everything they say is now how the law works. 

moneysavinghero

Comms69 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

On what basis?

Well firstly the section 21 would not be valid. You would have had at least 2 months to make the reasonable adjustments which you chose not to make. You would also be in breach of Equality Act.

mattyprice4004

moneysavinghero said:

Comms69 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

On what basis?

Well firstly the section 21 would not be valid. You would have had at least 2 months to make the reasonable adjustments which you chose not to make. You would also be in breach of Equality Act.

You can't be forced to keep running a business you no longer want to run - ultimately if you choose to drop out of the 'game' and go for a different career you can't be forced to continue. 

moneysavinghero

mattyprice4004 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Comms69 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

On what basis?

Well firstly the section 21 would not be valid. You would have had at least 2 months to make the reasonable adjustments which you chose not to make. You would also be in breach of Equality Act.

You can't be forced to keep running a business you no longer want to run - ultimately if you choose to drop out of the 'game' and go for a different career you can't be forced to continue. 

Once you have legally evicted someone, then yes of course you can do what you want. But if you could just walk away at any point then why would section 21's even bother to exist.? Why would the lady on another thread who everyone agreed had no right to force her tenant to allow viewings be worried - according to you as she just wants her house back (which is what she wanted) then she can just chuck the tenant out. Madness.

SpiderLegs

mattyprice4004 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Comms69 said:

moneysavinghero said:

Mattyprice4004 said:

Just hand them a section 21 without being specific - and if questioned, say you want to move back into the property. 

If you issued a section 21 after the tenant had requested reasonable adjustments (and without you making those adjustments), then there would be all sorts of charities and agencies that would very happily assist the tenant in taking legal action against you.

On what basis?

Well firstly the section 21 would not be valid. You would have had at least 2 months to make the reasonable adjustments which you chose not to make. You would also be in breach of Equality Act.

You can't be forced to keep running a business you no longer want to run - ultimately if you choose to drop out of the 'game' and go for a different career you can't be forced to continue. 

As a landlord one has contractual and statutory obligations that prevent you from simply stopping being a landlord. There wouldn’t be much point in having any kind of eviction legislation if it could be bypassed by the landlord simply deciding to pack it in.

sweetsand

Rightly so and the only thing that is helpful to LL's is section 21 notice. Everything else appears to be in the T's favour. For sure you get bad T's as well as LL's and then the good ones. Poor LL's need taking to court but so do T's that don't pay the rent, poss sub let and pocket the money and trash the property costing the LL's thousands inc legal fees and having to wait months at times to get them evicted. 
On the whole most LL's have worked hard to get a rental poss as a pension etc or help their kids, costs etc.
If you think a most LL's are bad, watch 'cant pay on't pay' the evictions that take place where LL's have lost thousands and some may lose their home as well becuse of bad T's - it is shocking and the properties on the whole are left worse than pig styes.

FYI - we rent out, our money we worked hard, we get working people in, no pets, smoking etc and max depsoits and full checks and we reward t's with a lovely property in a nice area and often we do not raise rents and property looked after by our letting agents that we pay a lot of money to and we pay extra tax and our T's get a nice home.