Annual leave and furlough

rosiesposies

If they were topped up to 100% then there is nothing owed from the employer for bank holidays 

rosiesposies

Looking at the calculation given by employer that is wrong. Salary and furlough are not based on calendar year but a working year in the mon-fri working pattern. Should be /260 not /365

bradders1983

epm-84 said:

bradders1983 said:

Well lets say he earned £100 a day. If he took an annual leave day he should get £80 for the day on furlough and then £20 annual leave to take it up to £100. Obviously it is then taxed.

If he is coming out with less than £100 in the above example then it is clearly wrong.

If he's opted in to the employer's pension scheme then a pension deduction will be taken from the £100, then the tax and NI will be calculated from what is left after the pension deduction is taken which complicates things slightly.

Well yes I was trying to be simplistic.

rosiesposies

Day rate should be worked out at salary divided by 52 divided by 5. Looks like employer is working it out salary divided by by 365 which is incorrect on a mon-fri working pattern 

epm-84

annc64 said:

This is the breakdown he got from his employer: (I have not included the figures as this will reveal my partners salary)

Furlough pays 80% of salary. (it says .69% on his payslip)

Then what is annual salary is

annual salary/365 x 80% = daily rate for furlough pay (not sure why it's 365 days when he doesn't work shifts)

annual salary/365 = normal daily rate

 So his holiday pay is the difference per day between his normal pay and furlough pay:

I know nothing about wages, but I would have thought if he was being paid furlough at .69%, 3 days salary for days worked and  he worked and then 5 days annual leave he would get his full salary for that month.  Instead his salary is reduced by £170 and that included the £65.75 that he got for taking 5 days annual leave. 

Something sounds a bit strange about what you're saying.

Most jobs are 5 days a week and Mon-Fri meaning in July for those jobs there were 23 working days.  Of course it might be the 40 hours your husband works are over 4 days not 5 days but even then you say he worked 3 days and took 5 days holiday on furloughed days which only accounts for 8 working days, so when you say pay for July do you mean the full month or just a fortnight period?  If it's the former what happened for the rest of the month?

The government's site gives an example about how pay should be calculated for flexible furlough: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/find-examples-to-help-you-work-out-80-of-your-employees-wages/examples-of-how-to-work-out-80-of-your-employees-wages-national-insurance-contributions-and-pension-contributions#min-pay-flexi

annc64

Thanks to everyone for all your comments.  We like you think it has been worked out wrong in terms of days/hours etc worked and he has definitely not been paid 100% of his salary when he should have, i.e. when it's a bank/annual leave holiday or when he has worked a day/two or three has is now the case.  We have therefore decided to take this up with ACAS to see if they can throw some light on it so that we can take it to his employer if in the case as we suspect they proved are wrong.  At least this way we will get peace of mind whatever the outcome. 
Many thanks for your help.