New home corner

GraceD_17

luke105 said:

ProDave said:

I cannot see an issue with intruders with a 6ft high wall.  If it really concerns you get one of those security things to put along the top with a row of spikes to stop anybody climbing it.

Is it a rough area to make you concerned?

No it’s a new development in the middle of nowhere with school being built and shops. It’s expensive for this part of Leicestershire so should have good neighbours. No council estates near it all. Closest is over a mile away up a country B road.

Sorry to be that person but what has a council estate being close got to do with anything? Also it being an expensive area doesn't make your neighbours any nicer than the standard person. 

CCTV, alarm systems and locks as well as potentially a dog if it's an option? All could prevent your worries slightly. Better to be safe. 

UnderOffer

RelievedSheff said:

We bought a new build corner plot last year but it is tucked away in a quiet part of the development. We love it with windows to all aspects of the street and a lovely private walled garden that is not overlooked at all.

We are on a very private and quiet estate though and there is very little through traffic or footfall past the house. At the moment there is more traffic than there will be when finished as the end of the road isn't open  to traffic just yet. It will hopefully be open in a few months.

Sounds similar to ours. It never crossed my mind that being on a corner would make us vulnerable for burglary. We did have some trellis added to the height of the wall to make it taller, but this was to protect my daughters Guinean pigs during the day as I was worried a fox might visit. 

My concern has been graffiti, seems a long wall which you can access and walk on by, is an easy target. However the wall is ‘fake’ Cotswold stone, so not smooth render. Perhaps it’s less appealing 🤔. 

luke105

GraceD_17 said:

luke105 said:

ProDave said:

I cannot see an issue with intruders with a 6ft high wall.  If it really concerns you get one of those security things to put along the top with a row of spikes to stop anybody climbing it.

Is it a rough area to make you concerned?

No it’s a new development in the middle of nowhere with school being built and shops. It’s expensive for this part of Leicestershire so should have good neighbours. No council estates near it all. Closest is over a mile away up a country B road.

Sorry to be that person but what has a council estate being close got to do with anything? Also it being an expensive area doesn't make your neighbours any nicer than the standard person. 

CCTV, alarm systems and locks as well as potentially a dog if it's an option? All could prevent your worries slightly. Better to be safe. 

Well in my opinion a lot of people on council estates probably don’t work or are from rough families as nobody would choose to live next door to people on the social welfare would they. 

Im buying an expensive house so I feel in a position to want to chose my neighbours and children my kids will grow up with. Also I suspect the schools there will be filled with better category of children from stable homes.

We’ve decided not to go with it anyway as we feel being on the corner would always bother us. 

Thanks for all input. 

Sistergold

@luke105
Please don’t let me put you off by my bad experience. The area was a good area and the house was average for the town I was in. If you feel the corner is tucked away and it’s not where all pedestrians will start and you take everything else into consideration then go for it. Also you might never have a problem. 

I am in an expensive desirable area now but even now not too far will be not such an expensive less desirable area and people can come to see what they can take from elsewhere and even buying this house I just made sure I will not buy where pedestrian have side or back view of my back garden. I know you can get problem neighbours but at least I will know who to confront. 

I will now not buy a house where I have a foot path on the sides or back. Buglers do go to other areas to “shop around”. 

So you say it’s a new development which means there is really room for future developments nearby? Schools being built etc. 

Honestly though we all know the advantages of a corner plot but just make sure it’s “tucked away” enough to avoid nuisance observers later. Also if you later have problems you can always move as it might be that you will never have the problems that I had! 

RelievedSheff

UnderOffer said:

RelievedSheff said:

We bought a new build corner plot last year but it is tucked away in a quiet part of the development. We love it with windows to all aspects of the street and a lovely private walled garden that is not overlooked at all.

We are on a very private and quiet estate though and there is very little through traffic or footfall past the house. At the moment there is more traffic than there will be when finished as the end of the road isn't open  to traffic just yet. It will hopefully be open in a few months.

Sounds similar to ours. It never crossed my mind that being on a corner would make us vulnerable for burglary. We did have some trellis added to the height of the wall to make it taller, but this was to protect my daughters Guinean pigs during the day as I was worried a fox might visit. 

My concern has been graffiti, seems a long wall which you can access and walk on by, is an easy target. However the wall is ‘fake’ Cotswold stone, so not smooth render. Perhaps it’s less appealing 🤔. 

The developers got a little carried away with the height of our garden wall. It is 8ft tall!

Graffiti has never crossed our mind as being a problem.  But then again we are tucked away in the estate on a quiet residential street so I doubt the idiots would walk this way in to find a wall to paint. Plus we have a garden area in front of the wall to separate it from the road and footpath so people are less likely to walk across that to get to the wall.

I don't see the corner plots here as being at any more risk of burglary then any of the other plots on the estate. The layouts of modern estates are designed to prove difficult for burglers to target specific properties by the Secure by Design guidelines. Adjacent properties provide surveillance to discourage burglary. 

Sistergold

luke105 said:

GraceD_17 said:

luke105 said:

ProDave said:

I cannot see an issue with intruders with a 6ft high wall.  If it really concerns you get one of those security things to put along the top with a row of spikes to stop anybody climbing it.

Is it a rough area to make you concerned?

No it’s a new development in the middle of nowhere with school being built and shops. It’s expensive for this part of Leicestershire so should have good neighbours. No council estates near it all. Closest is over a mile away up a country B road.

Sorry to be that person but what has a council estate being close got to do with anything? Also it being an expensive area doesn't make your neighbours any nicer than the standard person. 

CCTV, alarm systems and locks as well as potentially a dog if it's an option? All could prevent your worries slightly. Better to be safe. 

Well in my opinion a lot of people on council estates probably don’t work or are from rough families as nobody would choose to live next door to people on the social welfare would they. 

Im buying an expensive house so I feel in a position to want to chose my neighbours and children my kids will grow up with. Also I suspect the schools there will be filled with better category of children from stable homes.

We’ve decided not to go with it anyway as we feel being on the corner would always bother us. 

Thanks for all input. 

You are right even if the neighbourhood is good you being in the corner means you are the most vulnerable position in the whole development!  Better to be safe! You just want to be able to sleep at night without wondering what will happen. Neighbourhoods change in character from time to time so good to choose your location well. 

Scotbot

I have been burgled twice, both times house in the middle of the street not on the corner. This was before I got a dog.  Next door burgled, again not on a corner the burglars jumped over a side gate.  Another house on the street burgled via the side gate,  the same day my dog went nuts barking in the middle of the afternoon. Suspect burglars were sizing up the house.Unless you live in a terrace it is pretty easy for a burglar get round the back.
Living in an expensive area makes burglary more likely - you are more likely to have good stuff and burglars travel

daivid

A dense, thorny hedge will provide much greater security than the wall. It will take time to grow, though if you have space to plant it outside the wall then you can have the best of both worlds.

luke105 said:

No it’s a new development in the middle of nowhere with school being built and shops.

Separate issue I know, but have these been started/built? A number of large development in my area were given permission on the proviso that amenities were built to service the estates (inc schools, a medical centre and shops). The houses were competed and sold (getting on for 10 years ago), the additional infrastructure never materialised. The council may have learned a lesson though as another development is in hold because the developer has tried to renegotiate similar obligations after recieving planning permission under condition of providing a school and shops. I would be very sceptical, especially as a shop can be built but it is no use unless someone decides to trade from it.