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Trader selling private car from their forecourt

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  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,991 Forumite
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    edited 20 August 2020 at 9:46AM
    sweetsand said:
    Don't worry, i'm happy to give them a chance to put things right - and being nice is always my way of dealing with things (probably too soft!) - just want to have all the info if they start pushing back.
    issues are:
    Aircon compressor fault,
    brake fluid tests as poor
    faulty folding mirror motor
    tyres worn below 1.6m inner edges
    rear inner brake pads below 2mm
    front upper suspension ball joint split
    o/s brake pipe perished, and metal pipe kinked
    o/s CV boot split
    both front shock absorber bushes perished
    welding on inner seals
    CV joint knocking on o/s
    Fault codes in various ECU modules

    Its a 2008 audi, so the parts are going to be quite pricey to replace! 
    Surely, some of that must have showed up on the mot?
    Anyway, good luck and I hope its sorted.

    Some of it probably did but would have been advisory. Depending on what's happened to it in the 6 months since passing the tyres and brakes could have worn below the safe limits.
    MOT certainly wouldn't cover old fault codes, hidden welding, folding mirror action or aircon.

    Private sale from a dealer forecourt screams liability avoidance, who was the owner? A friend of the garage? One of the staff?
    Given it seems to be hugely underpriced (what do parkers have it worth?), then it sounds likely the dealer knew it was a lemon and wanted rid of it without liability. Your only real options here are to:
    1) Prove it was actually from a dealer (easy enough), then get them to accept it back (almost impossible)
    2) Fix it, and then you know it's in good condition
    3) trade it back in for something else from a different dealership, which you give a good test drive.

  • facade
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    edited 20 August 2020 at 10:47AM
    Tip for next time-

    Never buy a car that belonged to a mechanic.

    The myth is that a mechanic will constantly fettle his own car until it is the finest example of the marque in the land.
    The reality is when you spend long hours mending other peoples cars for peanuts the last thing you want is to mess with one in your spare time- as long as it keeps going forwards it doesn't matter what is dragging along the road. (Things were different in The Olden Days when jobs could be done as a foreigner ;) )

    What you want is a car that belonged to a genuine enthusiast, but these are rarely for sale unless it is by the executor of the estate.

    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • foxy-stoat
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    Mechanic knew it was going to cost thousands it fix all the faults so he sold it with the "help" of a 3 month warranty.  Tut tut.
  • Scrapit
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    sweetsand said:
    Don't worry, i'm happy to give them a chance to put things right - and being nice is always my way of dealing with things (probably too soft!) - just want to have all the info if they start pushing back.
    issues are:
    Aircon compressor fault,
    brake fluid tests as poor
    faulty folding mirror motor
    tyres worn below 1.6m inner edges
    rear inner brake pads below 2mm
    front upper suspension ball joint split
    o/s brake pipe perished, and metal pipe kinked
    o/s CV boot split
    both front shock absorber bushes perished
    welding on inner seals
    CV joint knocking on o/s
    Fault codes in various ECU modules

    Its a 2008 audi, so the parts are going to be quite pricey to replace! 
    Surely, some of that must have showed up on the mot?
    Anyway, good luck and I hope its sorted.
    What is covered in the MOT is very clear. You should look it up.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Scrapit said:
    sweetsand said:
    Don't worry, i'm happy to give them a chance to put things right - and being nice is always my way of dealing with things (probably too soft!) - just want to have all the info if they start pushing back.
    issues are:
    Aircon compressor fault,
    brake fluid tests as poor
    faulty folding mirror motor
    tyres worn below 1.6m inner edges
    rear inner brake pads below 2mm
    front upper suspension ball joint split
    o/s brake pipe perished, and metal pipe kinked
    o/s CV boot split
    both front shock absorber bushes perished
    welding on inner seals
    CV joint knocking on o/s
    Fault codes in various ECU modules

    Its a 2008 audi, so the parts are going to be quite pricey to replace! 
    Surely, some of that must have showed up on the mot?
    Anyway, good luck and I hope its sorted.
    What is covered in the MOT is very clear. You should look it up.
    Yup. It isn't guesswork and what the tester feels like...

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles
  • dogshome
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    Car dealers are responsible for the quality of what they sell, which private sellers are not.
    A Private Sale car from a Dealers Forecourt, screams that it's a money pit  - The OP paid by bank transfer and must have the name of the seller - Have a look at the Companies Registration data to see if the seller is a Director    
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    dogshome said:
    Car dealers are responsible for the quality of what they sell 
    Yes, they are.

    Subject to reasonable expectations for used goods of that age, apparent condition, and relative price.
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