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Buying house with conservatory with no Building Regulations (removed internal doors)

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  • AdrianC
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    edited 15 August 2020 at 11:42AM
    heffsta99 said:
    AdrianC said:
    That's how it was when you saw the EA details.
    That's how it was when you viewed.
    That's how you WANT it to be...

    So to ask for a discount...? Well, you can always ask, but as a vendor I'd tell you where to get off.
    I understand but, we liked it as it is and with the understanding that everything is up to standard, or at least been checked by authorities. We offered based on that. Not having approval changes things. 
    No, it changes nothing. Whether you understood what getting BR sign-off requires or not is beside the point. You looked at it LIKE THAT. You are now asking for a discount because of what you were or could easily have been aware of at the time of your offer.

    Unless it's been done in the last year, the BR paperwork is irrelevant for all practical purposes.

    If you're concerned about whether the work was done well, get a structural survey.
  • steve866
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    AdrianC said:
    heffsta99 said:
    AdrianC said:
    That's how it was when you saw the EA details.
    That's how it was when you viewed.
    That's how you WANT it to be...

    So to ask for a discount...? Well, you can always ask, but as a vendor I'd tell you where to get off.
    I understand but, we liked it as it is and with the understanding that everything is up to standard, or at least been checked by authorities. We offered based on that. Not having approval changes things. 
    No, it changes nothing. Whether you understood what getting BR sign-off requires or not is beside the point. You looked at it LIKE THAT. You are now asking for a discount because of what you were or could easily have been aware of at the time of your offer.

    Unless it's been done in the last year, the BR paperwork is irrelevant for all practical purposes.

    If you're concerned about whether the work was done well, get a structural survey.

    I am not an advocate of trying to get discounts based on survey results, where the report brings typical or expected information. I would however be wondering why there was no BR sign off on such a recent piece of work? It could cause a headache down the line when selling. Would an insurance indemnity not be an option here? 
  • jimbog
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    edited 15 August 2020 at 12:00PM
    davidmcn said:
    heffsta99 said:
    AdrianC said:
    That's how it was when you saw the EA details.
    That's how it was when you viewed.
    That's how you WANT it to be...

    So to ask for a discount...? Well, you can always ask, but as a vendor I'd tell you where to get off.
    I understand but, we liked it as it is and with the understanding that everything is up to standard, or at least been checked by authorities. We offered based on that. Not having approval changes things.
    A bit of paper saying the council looked at it does not add to the value of the property.
    I would disagree. For you it may not, but it would be reassuring to a prospective buyer (such as the OP), will make it more attractive to a wider set of buyers in the future and that it confirms it is safe as it meets building regs. These all 'add value'
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  • AdrianC said:
    heffsta99 said:
    AdrianC said:
    That's how it was when you saw the EA details.
    That's how it was when you viewed.
    That's how you WANT it to be...

    So to ask for a discount...? Well, you can always ask, but as a vendor I'd tell you where to get off.
    I understand but, we liked it as it is and with the understanding that everything is up to standard, or at least been checked by authorities. We offered based on that. Not having approval changes things. 
    No, it changes nothing. Whether you understood what getting BR sign-off requires or not is beside the point. You looked at it LIKE THAT. You are now asking for a discount because of what you were or could easily have been aware of at the time of your offer.

    Unless it's been done in the last year, the BR paperwork is irrelevant for all practical purposes.

    If you're concerned about whether the work was done well, get a structural survey.
    I am not asking for a discount yet. I am trying to ascertain if it warrants asking for a discount. I know it is up to us if we want the risk. But again it could mean that if we wanted to sell again, it could deter some buyers. 
    I am just thinking of my options. We are still trying to get the answer as to why they did not actually get BR approval, no details yet.
  • Sea_Shell
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    With it being north-west facing it's going to get very little winter sun, especially in the mornings when it's at its coldest.

    On the flip side, it shouldn't end up like a furnace in the summer!!

    Will you be installing blinds?  Side and roof?  (I can't see it has them from the picture)

    Even if you are prepared (able) to heat it, in the winter it could feel very dark and uninviting.
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  • davidmcn
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    edited 15 August 2020 at 12:21PM
    jimbog said:
    davidmcn said:
    heffsta99 said:
    AdrianC said:
    That's how it was when you saw the EA details.
    That's how it was when you viewed.
    That's how you WANT it to be...

    So to ask for a discount...? Well, you can always ask, but as a vendor I'd tell you where to get off.
    I understand but, we liked it as it is and with the understanding that everything is up to standard, or at least been checked by authorities. We offered based on that. Not having approval changes things.
    A bit of paper saying the council looked at it does not add to the value of the property.
    I would disagree. For you it may not, but it would be reassuring to a prospective buyer (such as the OP), will make it more attractive to a wider set of buyers in the future and that it confirms it is safe as it meets building regs. These all 'add value'
    Maybe some people would consider it more marketable or valuable, but that isn't a wide enough opinion to make a difference to the objective market value of the property. I have never seen a surveyor alter their valuation based purely on the presence or absence of local authority consents.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Ask to see their winter heating bill? 
  • AdrianC
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    heffsta99 said:
    We are still trying to get the answer as to why they did not actually get BR approval, no details yet.
    Because they knew damn well that their design decisions would mean they wouldn't get it.

    There's been mention of an indemnity... For what purpose?
  • silvercar
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    Round here people build those sort of extensions and get building regulation sign off before removing the doors! 
    Then the doors come off and the place is decorated.
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    On the plus side, I had underfloor heating installed under my extension, it heats the whole house! We had the radiators on for about 3 weeks last winter.
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