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Save £157.50 per year in Tv licensing fee

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Things have evolved due to internet and now I believe you can see many English-language live streaming Tv channels from around the world and quite freely if they are not on Ofcom register (in other words they are Non-Ofcom) such as for example Abc Tv (U.s.a.) and Nbc (U.s.a.) whilst you are in the U.k.

YouTube.com is an easy site & has an easy app which also brings to you Non-Ofcom Tv stations' live feeds  where these Tv channel broadcasters themselves are using their YouTube accounts to reach out to English-language understanding audiences.

As long as the live streaming Tv broadcasters you are watching are Not regulated by Ofcom - in other words they are Non-Ofcom and all you watch is live streaming Non-Ofcom Tv channels, then I believe you Do Not have to pay the Bbc Tv licensing (department's aka capita outsourcing company) Tv licence fee.

Here is more evidence -
Ofcom (governing body commission) and Bbc (corporation) have same joint-powers in the enforcement directions under the legislation regarding Tv licensing. Hence Bbc (corporation) powers are limited to the channels Ofcom monitors i.e. the Ofcom-regulated Tv channels and nothing more :

"Communications Act 2003 (c. 21)Part 4 — Licensing of TV reception
366 Powers to enforce TV licensing
.......
(2)A warrant under this section is a warrant authorising any one or more persons authorised for the purpose by the BBC or by OFCOM—(a)to enter  the  premises  or  vehicle  at  any  time  (either  alone  or in  the company of one or more constables); and(b)to search the premises or vehicle and examine and test any television receiver found there.
.......
(5)The powers conferred by a warrant under this section on a person authorised by  OFCOM  are  exercisable  in  relation  only  to  a contravention  or  suspected contravention  of  a  condition  of  a TV  licence  relating  to  interference  with wireless telegraphy.
.......
(6)A person authorised by the BBC, or by OFCOM, to exercise a power conferred by  a  warrant  under  this  section  may  (if  necessary) use  such  force  as  may  be reasonable in the exercise of that power."









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  • pphillips
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    The BBC don't want people to know that you can legally watch any TV channels that aren't broadcast in the UK. What would be helpful though is more info on how to access them.
  • JJ_Egan
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    Same for me with savings on Sky Cinema , Britbox   and a host of paid for stuff.
    But that's my choice i know what i want to watch and that requires a Licence .
  • Cornucopia
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    edited 15 August 2020 at 6:04PM
    jon81uk said:
    So your advice on how to save the license fee is not to watch things that are covered for it and then you don’t need to pay for it! Genius.
    i know how to save £5.99 on Netflix, don’t watch it and you don’t need to pay for it!
    It's not necessarily that.

    We're in an era where genuinely free TV is available, and it's commercial catch-up.   

    (Confusingly, it's neither Freeview or Freesat).
  • Hi Martin, I received my no TV licence required certificate from the TV licencing department in 2017 and again in 2018. I left the country in the end of 2018 and have not returned yet.  My problem I have is that even though the TV licencing department themselves gave me the certificate to say that I don't require a TV licence, they still send me emails and take money from my account and the latest they now threatening me with debt collection agencies.  How do I keep my good name clear as someone who always pays bills on time and get my money back. I feel helpless being out of the country and still having to deal with this. 
  • JJ_Egan
    JJ_Egan Posts: 20,281 Forumite
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    This is a Forum not  Martin who sold this site  many years ago .
    Cancel the licence .
  • pphillips
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    Hi Martin, I received my no TV licence required certificate from the TV licencing department in 2017 and again in 2018. I left the country in the end of 2018 and have not returned yet.  My problem I have is that even though the TV licencing department themselves gave me the certificate to say that I don't require a TV licence, they still send me emails and take money from my account and the latest they now threatening me with debt collection agencies.  How do I keep my good name clear as someone who always pays bills on time and get my money back. I feel helpless being out of the country and still having to deal with this. 
    Your fault for not cancelling the TV licence. If you had cancelled the licence, they would've been unable to take money from your account or persue you for the debt.
  • Mickey666
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    jon81uk said:
    So your advice on how to save the license fee is not to watch things that are covered for it and then you don’t need to pay for it! Genius.
    i know how to save £5.99 on Netflix, don’t watch it and you don’t need to pay for it!
    How about a thread on how to save on car insurance . . . (you're ahead of me already LOL)

  • pphillips said:
    The BBC don't want people to know that you can legally watch any TV channels that aren't broadcast in the UK. What would be helpful though is more info on how to access them.
    Isn't the simplest way just to go to ustvgo.tv and pick a channel?  A must for political nerds (and lovers of farce) during election season especially! 
  • Hi Martin, I received my no TV licence required certificate from the TV licencing department in 2017 and again in 2018. I left the country in the end of 2018 and have not returned yet.  My problem I have is that even though the TV licencing department themselves gave me the certificate to say that I don't require a TV licence, they still send me emails and take money from my account and the latest they now threatening me with debt collection agencies.  How do I keep my good name clear as someone who always pays bills on time and get my money back. I feel helpless being out of the country and still having to deal with this. 
    Have you tried getting on the TVL website and declaring that you don't need a license?  
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