EXCITING TIME coming very soon for online grocery shoppers !

Bacman

Just because a food shop charges more does not mean their produce are better. Some M&S items are better/nicer but a fair bit is just more expensive generally. It's like other supermarkets; they rely on the fact that when you are there you'll add in your trolley many things you could have bought at similar quality, a lot cheaper elsewhere, for convenience.

coachman12

Bacman said:

Just because a food shop charges more does not mean their produce are better. Some M&S items are better/nicer but a fair bit is just more expensive generally. It's like other supermarkets; they rely on the fact that when you are there you'll add in your trolley many things you could have bought at similar quality, a lot cheaper elsewhere, for convenience.

But the old adage of "you get what you pay for" did not come into normal parlance for no reason.
It is a general concept that is usually true. Some prices are higher than other grocers, whatever supermarket we are talking about. M&S have a great reputation for quality , that is indisputable.
Personally I find their costs are lower or on a par with other food retailers with some products and higher with others. I like food and I know that I choose to eat it from Ocado or Marks rather than Lidl.
BTW, Ocado refunds any purchases made from them which amount to less than the same item from Tesco-----so we sometimes get refunds of £5 or £6 from Ocado----though by and large Ocado are pretty competitive  at least with regard to Tesco.
Chacun à son goût as some French bloke said.

coachman12

In the posting above the word "less" should have been "more" of course. Sorry.

MysteryMe

coachman12 said:

MysteryMe said:

Have you considered a career in advertising   
TBH Ocado's reputation seems to have taken a dive during COVID 19 due to an inability to adapt and expand their service. I've read threads from existing Ocado customers who found it very difficult to get any kind of delivery slot and if you were an infrequent or potential new customer you were persona non grata.  

Well, I love the dive. My 2000 shares were 1214 in February this year, and are now at 2240.
Gosh, aren't dives  "exciting" phenomena ?  

I'm glad your shareholding provides you with much excitement.

It is very poor form to not declare a vested interest when offering an opinion.  If you had been honest about it when starting this thread rather than being outed by another poster your comments would have meant something.

GaleSF63

I don't think I'll bother getting excited until they decide to deliver to this area. 

coachman12

MysteryMe said:

coachman12 said:

MysteryMe said:

Have you considered a career in advertising   
TBH Ocado's reputation seems to have taken a dive during COVID 19 due to an inability to adapt and expand their service. I've read threads from existing Ocado customers who found it very difficult to get any kind of delivery slot and if you were an infrequent or potential new customer you were persona non grata.  

Well, I love the dive. My 2000 shares were 1214 in February this year, and are now at 2240.
Gosh, aren't dives  "exciting" phenomena ?  

I'm glad your shareholding provides you with much excitement.

It is very poor form to not declare a vested interest when offering an opinion.  If you had been honest about it when starting this thread rather than being outed by another poster your comments would have meant something.

Everyone who reads this site regularly knows about my Ocado shareholding and how much I admire Ocado. If you do your homework in advance , you find out such things very easily. There are many threads, including some dedicated solely to Ocado.
But, even if some readers didn't know, I don't think it is "bad form" to report the forthcoming joint venture between two major players in the food retail world. My report of the forthcoming Ocado/M&S link has nothing whatsoever to do with my shareholdings ( I have no shareholdings in M&S and I explained on this thread to Badger that I have been a huge fan of Ocado since long before acquiring shares.
You seem to be very sensitive and, indeed, paranoid to question my honesty about some major food retail information that is good to share on this Forum and has nothing to do at all with shares.

coachman12

GaleSF63 said:

I don't think I'll bother getting excited until they decide to deliver to this area. 

   I don't think anyone can argue with you on that one, Gale  

cymruchris

They did say that for every Waitrose product there'd be an equivalent M&S product (except for poor performing lines) - well there's no fresh French Onion soup that both Waitrose and just for reference Sainsburys sell under their own brand names. That's an essential in my house with a family member who has restrictive eating. It'll be a good move overall, but there's bound to be a few things that get missed. Waitrose have started to deliver to my area now though, so I can alternate between Ocado and Waitrose weekly if necessary. Some of the M&S stuff is certainly pretty good - so an excuse to gain even more weight in the coming weeks

prowla

There are a couple of M&S items which I quite like (their tubs of cake bites), but the rest is overpriced and ordinary.

Thanks also to the posters who have outed the OP's interests for the benefit of those of us who don't follow particular forumites shareholdings.

Bacman

Indeed, bias posters should have their threads deleted, a forum is for impartial views and opinions, it doesn't matter if views are one way or the opposite way, right or totally wrong, those are views, opinions and what they think (everyone is entitled to their views); however a vested interest would explain the "exciting time" topic title and viewpoint; it is loaded. It's like politicians who were on the gravy train in Europe on fat cat salaries and expenses and pension schemes trying to persuade the rest of us that we should love the EU and stay with them - they have a financial interest to stay fat and rich on the rest of us - they should be shut up from sprouting their bias views as they have a financial interest in it.

Here's my unbias view which is not affiliated with any financial interest or vested interest:  Yes you get what you pay for sometimes however often that historical quality/price is used as a perception whereas reality is different - eg M&S clothing; used to be high quality, fitted nicely and you got what you paid for; now similar pricing but made in cheap foreign factories, quality of stitching is poor and so is the fitting - however M&S are still on the bandwagon of "quality clothing" as many old people grew up with that. Asda used to do their price guarantee, the APG's; I used to love wombling, made a fair bit on it; and in many cases the larger vouchers I got from APGs were against price matching with Waitrose! Again, perception was if Asda said they were at least 10% cheaper than other supermarkets on equivalent products, most people would believe that; however reality was different, it was marketing. Womblers proved it...

Ocado are expensive on most of their items compared to other retailers. Ocado rightly got a lot of bad press when the pandemic came out; very hard to get slots, people being no.1000 or whatever in a virtual queue to try and get a booking that long since went, and finding most items unavailable when they did log in; plus problems with deliveries if they did get a slot. It's documented on this forum. Other supermarkets struggled but worked hard and increased slots, also had more robust servers running their software platform too. I am surprised that M&S are still proceeding with Ocado. On a positive note, nice that Waitrose have pulled away from Ocado; Waitrose give great service on their online deliveries, in many cases the extra their products cost are worth it (not on things like meat and fish but pretty much everything else).

If I had had shares in Ocado i'd probably sell them and run, especially if M&S don't do well on online deliveries. People vote with their feet; treat people like they did apparently, it is inevitable. I've had many emails from Ocado offering "priority slots" as they are clearly short of business; i'm not interested in them any more. Waitrose have my loyalty; followed by Asda.